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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: mrwayne on November 21, 2012, 09:41:39 AM
This is to all of you who never posted but followed the thread...... Thank you for following.
Our ZED Technology is exactly what I have described. (I know some have convinced themselves otherwise - so is life)
The Purpose of comming here was to educate others on how we developed a method of using Buoyancy to unlock the mechanics/method required to produce sustainable Free Energy.
Then why didn't you do so? Why doesn't your patent application contain sufficient detail for one skilled in the art to reproduce your claim of "Net excess energy"?
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Not Magical Free Energy - but Net Excess Energy.
What is the difference? If your device works with NO INPUT, runs indefinitely and produces usable output energy (work).... and isn't running on a depleteable stored source..... then what it is doing is such "advanced technology that it is indistinguishable from magic". However, as we all know, you have not demonstrated this to be the case at all.... at least not here or anywhere I can find.
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Do to the constant interruptions, accusations and hijacking, it has become necessary to form a private group.
Is that why, or is it because you could not honestly answer the questions being asked, without embarrassing yourself or actually outright lying? For example, here is one of the questions you cannot honestly answer: Where is the "simple, three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself" (a direct quotation of your words, Wayne Travis)? How was its clear overunity determined, what is the ratio of output work to input work, and where is this system  now?
Here's another one you will not honestly answer: Do you now or have you ever had a system that would produce 20 kW output in the footprint of a toolshed?
And another one: Are you running your house on your system yet? If not... why not?
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The group is called Hydro Energy Revolution Professionals.
So far consisting of twenty individuals set on three goals:
Understanding and analyzing the Principal of operation.
Educating the group in order to educate others.
and working together to bring the Energy to the world.
Great work is being shared.
The dynamics and diversity are great.
Yet, nobody has been successful in producing any "overunity" performance, have they. Spreadsheets don't count !!
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We are our own worst critics (good critics), and we have open discussions regarding claims - and each claim is answered with theory, then data collection (physical proof), and verified independently.
Why didn't you do that here, from the very beginning?  I seriously doubt that you are "Professionals" in the area of hydraulic engineering and physics and mechanical engineering in that group.
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All of the replication members are present - and as the share information - a common theme has appeared - surprise and discovery.
No one in the group is required to "believe" in the Technology - but they are held to a professional standard.
Do you mean that they are required to provide evidence that supports their claims? Why did you not do that when you were posting here regularly? I think it is because you cannot, and you still cannot, but your sycophants are too polite to challenge you.
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As the group works to catch up in understanding the ZED principal - we will also be examining our improved models, the TAZ, and the evolution of our system - the SPAZ.
At my Lab - we are currently testing the TAZ, in its worst COP to date - 2.85 or 285% efficient (extreme overkill control of the process).
and the best COP 13 or 1300% efficient - run as close to nominal input as necessary.
The final run will likely be around 8 or 800%
Now you are just blowing smoke, and fooling around with your own definition of "efficiency" which no legitimate evaluator shares. Or can you cite references where your definitions and methods for calculating COP are used anywhere else, in any industry at all? Please do, if you can. But I think you cannot.
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The secret to our extremely high efficiency -
Two things:
Our "input" controls the relationships within the buoyancy of our system, the input is an indirect cause of the output.
Such as a rudder is to a boat - it steers the reaction or lack of reaction to the flow - but it is the flow itself that moves the boat.
We have unlocked the principal of operation of the ZED and reduced the process to the point that we can actuate the pressure and flow of the output - without direct input.
And Secondly - the momentum at the end of stroke has been captured and returns to reduce in the input further.
You have said over and over again that you have NO INPUT. NO INPUT means no input, at least on this side of the Red River. Now you are prevaricating again....
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We are forging ahead - as always - I can be contacted @ my e-mail below and I update our web site almost weekly, Free energy at last....it has been a long and exciting journey.
"Forging" is indeed an appropriate word for you to use.
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At the end of the day - we have a fueless energy producing system - and we are working toward the design of the model for the public.
And every ten days or so you come up with a complete revision in the design. We here don't even know what a Rotary Zed is, or whether it actually IS "patent pending" or if that is another of your redefinitions of technical terms, like you tried to do with "Patent" some months ago, when what you really have is just a patent application. And now you've even gone beyond the Rotary Zed, apparently and are to the SPAZ.  No wonder you are still "working toward the design" instead of demonstrating a running model.
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If you are interested in helping or Vision, the mission, or adding your skill to the adventure - you are welcome.
Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com
But TODAY.... at the end of TODAY.... you still do not have an ACTUAL PHYSICAL DEVICE, a system that IS RUNNING by itself without external input of any kind, MAKING AT PRESENT useful power and running "forever", powering itself and some load bigger than a few lamps, and not depleting some internal energy store.

Do you? Yes, or NO, Mister Wayne.

TinselKoala

QuoteSuch as a rudder is to a boat - it steers the reaction or lack of reaction to the flow - but it is the flow itself that moves the boat.

Facepalm. Where does the energy come to move the "FLOW" ??? It comes from the boat's engines. powered with fossil fuels (stored sunlight) or nuclear fission (stored energy of supernovae) , or for a sailboat, the wind, which is powered by the living Sun.

Where does the energy come from in a SPAZ, or whatever you are calling it this fortnight? I think it comes from the same places, and is delivered to your home and barn thru wires.

Think of how easily you could prove me wrong, embarrass the hell out of me and make me shut up for good. All you have to do is to prove your claims. Living thru this winter with your home powered only by your own system, unhooked from the mains, would be a great way to do it.

mrwayne

Quote from: truesearch on November 21, 2012, 10:01:28 AM
@Wayne:


Thanks for your update here.


Are you still working toward having Mark Dansie come to your shop? What is your latest estimate/guess for that to potentially happen?


truesearch
Yes,
And thank you.
Mark is a valuable part of our efforts.
In Mark and mine's last conversation - just prior to his heading off on his honeymoon - He has two other stops to make and then we both hope we are ready for him to return her to Chickasha Oklahoma again.
Will we be ready?
Depends - ZED or TAZ....
Well - we have agreed on certain conditions for preparation for the ZED, and I added a few more for the Validations "ease of access" and while we were doing that - the lab developed the TAZ - which is so easily verifiably Over unity - that the issues that existed with the ZED - no longer apply.
The issue with the ZED was - it was only 160% efficient (prior to converting to electricity for show) a dual three layer system - 60% is just not enough to overcome all the losses in the conversion process and give a robust show.
Mark has seen the Photo's of the TAZ, and private updates - but he has not seen it in person yet.
Mark knows our ability to measure and the quality of our team nd our engineers  - so I expect we may have a new plan with the TAZ being so easy to confirm.
My opinion is that we will be changing priority of the ZED for the TAZ.
Now - we would never had discovered the TAZ if it were not for all the due diligence and pursuit of the principal of operation of the ZED.
The Both function with the same principal - the primary change is how we activate the principal.
Hope this helps. We will bring Clean and Free Energy.
Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com










TinselKoala

Notice that Mister Wayne chooses, yet again, not to answer my simple, yes or no questions.

See... I told you that he does not lie. He simply doesn't answer, or, like the answer about MD's upcoming visit.... he talks paragraphs around the question but still does not answer.

Ask me that question and I might have said, "Yes, of course we are still working on getting ready for a visit from Mark, but since we don't have a self runner yet, we don't really know when that will be, so we haven't made any final arrangements. Yet."

"We both hope we are ready, after his two other appointments, sometime in the indeterminate future....we hope to be ready" is really a different answer to a different sort of question, I think.

I sure hope your measurement engineers are better at measuring than you are at spelling, Mister Wayne. After all.... they aren't even going to have spellcheckers or dictionaries to refer to. Principle and Principal..... different things, but who cares. Power and work.... different things.... but who cares.




minnie

Hi,
   I only hope mrwayne's principal principle is not to hoodwink investors with his Travis Principle!
                                                      John.