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Charging Batteries from Batteries part 2. Free Energy?

Started by dandman, April 19, 2011, 10:21:33 PM

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dandman

Anyone find anything unusual about the statistics below???


They represent the discharge of a 3 lead acid battery configuration at a constant 12v 1.1 amp with a resistor (car bulb) and the charge states at 24 hour (approx) intervals. It should be noted that at no point during discharge were the batteries attached to any kind of charging device, mechanical or electrical. Prior to beginning discharge, the batteries were charged to their start state with a standard 2.5amp car charger in parallel and the first readings are prior to disconnection. The remainder of the readings are at the end of the 24hr periods, after which the configuration was changed systematically. The same results can be achieved with different discharge rates and with induction ie attaching an inverter to run a.c. applications.

Day 1 Midday 11deg c 5/9/11
Battery   Hydrometer Reading   Voltage Reading
B1         1.245                          14.25v
B2         1.240                          14.25v
B3         1.240                          14.25v

Day  2  9am 8deg c 6/9/11
B1         1.235                          12.54v
B2         1.250                          12.74v
B3         1.250                          14.89v

Day 3  7:30am 7deg c 7/9/11
B1         1.245                          14.21v
B2         1.235                          12.43v
B3         1.240                          12.69v

Day 4  7:30am 10deg c 8/9/11
B1         1.240                          12.50v
B2         1.255                          13.25v
B3         1.245                          12.40v

Day 5  8:45am 10deg c 9/9/11
B1         1.245                          13.12v
B2         1.250                          12.33v
B3         1.245                          12.40v

Day 6  7:30am 6deg c 10/9/11
B1         1.230                         10.75v
B2         1.250                         12.52v
B3         1.250                         12.67v

Day 7  9am 9deg c 11/9/11
B1         1.240                         12.35v
B2         1.250                         12.61v
B3         1.225                         12.17v

onthecuttingedge2005


dandman

Hey cutting edge, they are fickle things arent they. Check day2 b3, day3 b1,day4 b2 etc. As 2 of the batteries discharge 1 charges, the hydrometer readings are there to confirm that the electrolyte density is changing and not just battery voltage. Therefore proving that charging is actually taking place, grin

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: dandman on September 26, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
Hey cutting edge, they are fickle things arent they. Check day2 b3, day3 b1,day4 b2 etc. As 2 of the batteries discharge 1 charges, the hydrometer readings are there to confirm that the electrolyte density is changing and not just battery voltage. Therefore proving that charging is actually taking place, grin

I agree with your analysis but batteries wear out over time.

dandman

AT LAST, thanks cutting edge. a battery does have a finite life, agreed, however, if over the period of that life one can produce a benefit (energy) in another battery, as a consequence of the use, be it light, heat or motive power surely it is worthy of further investigation?. As far as I am aware, the stats provided prove that there is a consequencial benefit available over and above its use?.