Overbalancing wheel

[SPANG]

Vidar,
       As far as I can tell, some of my devices only work IF the device 'locks up'!   To make the device   
INOPERABLE because of 'locking up', the forces that WOULD 'lock up', would need to be equal in magnitude --Doesn't the top-wheel contain equal forces?  If unequal forces were to meet ------------- they couldn't
'lock up', am I right?  And, if I'm right, the device couldn't rotate, am I right?
I should clarify 'uneven';   Two IDENTICAL forces, but at different distances from their common hub, or two
different forces, at the 'same' distance from their common hub -------------------- correct?

BILL.

[Low-Q]

Vidar,
         Despite our ongoing arguement about THIS design, I don't mean to upset you at all, but do you know
it's about three (3) different reasons you've given for this design NOT to work?   Be fair now, which one is it?
That was a lovely long 'post' you put together for your last reply, and STILL avoided answering my questions!
How on Earth do you expect anyone to take what you say seriously? How are they, (or anyone) to know what you realy mean?
In another 'post', you praised me for my ability to draw, and make myself perfectly understood ----------------
you've now gone against it --------- WHY?
You've even praised me for my ability to think 'outside the box'---------- have you changed your mind on that
also?
I agree with your last sentence ----------------- 'let's kick a ball about, not each other'!!
I don't mind being wrong -------- but I'd like to know why!

I hope I'm not avoiding your question this time, but the answer to your question about which reason, is written in my previous post. There is in SUM only one factor that will prevent the design to work. The lock up (Because of the three (more or less three - please dont arrest mi in saying the wrong number of reasons) reasons described in that post).

If the chains did NOT lock up, the design would not look like that. And I have no idea how to make a design that works that way without not facing another problem. You could always remove the inner wheel and its chain, but that will cause the bottom wheel to fall down until the left hand slack of the outer wheel is eventually taut up.

Such designs, and similar, is a dead end road. By that saying it will always be a reason why the designs doesn't work - in one way or another it will stop at equilibrium.

I see you got several questions, but I rather covering the answers in one general answer. Not because I want to avoid your spesific questions.

The ONLY way for you to get decent answers to your questions is to build. But I have understood you can't - for many good reasons. And I can't find any good reason to build them, nor any good and well understandable answers you'll accept. I am litterally short of answers.

If I avoided your questions again, I'm sorry.

br.

Vidar

[onthecuttingedge2005]

there have been many fine minds who failed on this project here in the current time and the past, why are you repeating the mistakes? as it would said, you'll find no extraordinary energy in gravity to harvest.

scientist would of discovered it 200 years ago if it existed, yet you still en devour.

jerry

[Low-Q]

Agreed edge2005. That will also apply to any given force within a closed loop. Bill is talking about tension, not gravity, but that will not make any difference.

A machine can't just start working because some people don't understand what is stopping it from running. There is plenty of free energy to harvest from else where. I can't see the point in searching for the total independent machine, because when the already existing energy disappears, humans also will disappear, and no need for an independent machine which run by itself.

What change we CAN do is to let more people realize there is alternatives to the power companies, and that actually no one is (technically speaking) depended of the power companies to get energy.

Vidar

[SPANG]

If the 'independent machine', is made to help mankind, with his energy needs ------------- Man will NOT
die out --------------- he will carry on, and develop this so-called 'independent machine', where power
needs will not be an issue any more, because man will be able to produce as much as is required!
Just because this 'independent machine' has not yet been found ------- does NOT mean it won't!  So I,
and others like me, will keep up the search ----- no matter how long it takes!


BILL.