Overbalancing wheel

[Low-Q]

According to some people, potential energy, prevents there ever being a perpetual motion machine.
If that is so, then why does overbalancing work?       And, it does!

BILL.

Potential energy can be transformed into kinetic energy, but it can also be used to increase potential energy in another weight given that the first weight loose the same potential as it transfer its potential to the other weight. Works pretty much as an old scale.
Potential energy is limited to do a limited amount of work, depending on the size of the potential. So a given potential energy cannot do work forever, unless the potential energy is infinitly big.
Potential energy can partially be converted into kinetic energy while the other part is to transfer potential energy onto another object.



A gravity wheel have weights around a hub. All weights is moving up and down the same distance all the time. The potential energy that one weight carry will on its way down be used to lift another equal weight upwards the same distance. No potential energy in the first weight will be converted into kinetic energy, because it only transfer its own potential energy into another weight, so there will be no spare energy left to harvest.




Vidar

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Unfortunately, my question was NOT answered!     Potential energy cannot stop PERPETUAL MOTION!
Overbalancing, DOES occur.
Potential energy is simply a word, that describes a 'real' force!   Potential energy is NOT a 'real' force at all.
Overbalancing CAN happen, and lift another weight at the same time  ---------------- this weight OBTAINS potential
energy through it being lifted, but is NOT the cause of the original weight being lifted.

[Low-Q]

According to some people, potential energy, prevents there ever being a perpetual motion machine.
If that is so, then why does overbalancing work?       And, it does!

BILL.

First and foremost, you ask a misleading question, where you follow up your own question by an incorrect answer. I see no point in answering a question, if you already have decided what the answer is - even if it is not correct.


Vidar

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I wish some people would simply answer the question, in a straight forward fashion.
Avoidance, probably means,  lack of knowledge --------------- not necessarily, just probably!
All I want, is the truth, proof, not guesswork!
If I'm wrong --------- I'm wrong!
Potential means just that ------------------ potential.  A word, NOT a force!

[Rafael Ti]

So, since we do see the effects of gravity, and we know the behaviour of gravity (In spite of not knowing what gravity REALLY is), why do we make gravity wheels and believe they are overbalancing??
Vidar

Just simple one... If you expose overbalancing wheel to the homogeneous forces of wind like on the picture below, would it work? If it works utilising wind it would also work using very similar forces of gravity. Why? because all equalisation related to the potential and kinetic energy of balls exposed to wind remain the same when they're exposed to gravity...