Muller Dynamo for experimentalists

[plengo]

I thought about an idea how this could work.

Take the rotor Romero did and its coils. There is one less magnet than coil. Cogging is there. Imagine now that we balance things so that cogging is even in every step, magnet approaching coil and passing by with net energy equal 0.

Now, if you spin the rotor fast enough it will somehow spin for a long time with zero energy loss caused by the cogging and only resistance losses. The energy necessary to pass the cogging is gained back as soon as it pass the coil, if repulsion is used as the mechanism. Such as Romero's design.

So far nothing new, no OU. Now, connect the coils to loads, such as 10 ohms resistors and again, balance the wheel by using distance of the magnets and coils and other ways so that cogging is again there but net zero with one difference now, we have a load and heat is created on the resistors. No OU yet, only more losses because of Lenz-laws.

Now, let's imagine that if the closed path of the whole wheel is balanced, as the rotor spins we generate electricity by the coils and the counter-EMF that increases the resistance of the cogging therefore causing greater losses.

How to fix that, imagine that if the closed magnetic path is very balanced in every step of the magnets passing by the coils will always have equal forces on all the points (magnets and coils) but what would happen if in one point we either loose some of the balance via making a magnet flux less intense, would not that cause the rotor to spin one revolution and cog at that unbalanced point?

Would be possible to now unbalance the opposing magnet/coil and restore the current magnet/coil balance causing the rotor to spin again with zero net loss/gain only paying for the unbalancing energy cost?

Would be possible to use the loads on the coils to be elements that cause that unbalance while using the energy generated when the rotor spins because the unbalance magnetic closed path flux?

I remember Romero saying that was very important to tune the motor with the proper load already connected so that the balancing would be specific to that load?

It sounds to me that one could create a very balanced closed path magnetic flux rotor where the coils are the pulsating unbalancing actors for causing the rotor to spin indefinitely only paying for the unbalancing cost which is NOT proportional to the strength of the rotation of the rotor. The rotor will spin proportional to the total magnetic energy in place, stronger magnets stronger spins and therefore more energy generated and less energy necessary to cause unbalance.

Please, shoot my idea.

Fausto.

[powercat]

I can't say I have fully understood your argument, but it's good to hear someone focusing on what makes this motor unique 

I remember Romero saying that was very important to tune the motor with the proper load already connected so that the balancing would be specific to that load?

Romero can only have tuned once  just before making the video ?

In the video he used different voltages on the DC to DC    and first there was no load and then later with the lamp there was a load,
at no time did I notice him retuning anything, so I think you only tune to make the motor run with no loud ?

This video is very interesting it was posted by David70 on the main thread, it was one of Romero's research videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCJKCXXZb-Y&feature=related

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg285933#msg285933

Here are the other two videos Romero was researching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX-PsJZzri8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTDGtSKrLPQ
it's great to see you are a moderator Fausto.

[neptune]

@Powercat .Romero emphasised more than once that you MUST tune with a load . He said you must tune each coil with an [unspecified] load before connecting the output of its bridge to the common rails . The whole circuit is tuned again with a 21 watt bulb as a load .

[powercat]

@neptune, it sounds a bit like tuning an old car, using the distributor to find the middle ground for best all round performance, hmmm  maybe a strobe gun might help 

[plengo]

I can't say I have fully understood your argument, but it's good to hear someone focusing on what makes this motor unique 

Romero can only have tuned once  just before making the video ?

In the video he used different voltages on the DC to DC    and first there was no load and then later with the lamp there was a load,
at no time did I notice him retuning anything, so I think you only tune to make the motor run with no loud ?

This video is very interesting it was posted by David70 on the main thread, it was one of Romero's research videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCJKCXXZb-Y&feature=related

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg285933#msg285933

Here are the other two videos Romero was researching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX-PsJZzri8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTDGtSKrLPQ
it's great to see you are a moderator Fausto.

thank you. I will look into it and got to home.

Fausto.