PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[nul-points]

New Year's greetings, Steven and Mr Dishual !

Apologies for absence!

I was inspired by your intervening discussions, relating to lanterns and special (non) coils, to do a liitle experimenting with our favourite cct

Further details at:
  http://overunity.com/16326/thats-not-a-knife-this-is-a-knife-er-ou-flashlight/new/#new

I hope that you gentlemen are well, and in good spirit!

Keep up the good work
np

[Bat1Robin2]

Steven Jones circuit: There are measurement errors its pretty obvious. milli watts and spiked wave forms will not allow an accurate  measurement so easily. Resistors have inductance: any computerized scope has delays. State of the art is not good enough for this kind of proof.  Use a capacitor instead of a battery and loop the output to input and watch it show you its not even 99% within a few milliseconds. When that coil charges it is taking more energy than is apparent. Faster than the scope can see. All digital inputs have a input read rate. Is this guy in his first year of electronics college does anyone know why he is bread boarding like a student?

[ramset]

Yes the errors were pointed out many years ago ,I thought this was old news ?
maybe if this thread tittle is Misleading people ??
  An update or summary should be posted here so as to outline the errors [which were found early in the thread I believe [first few pages I think ??

I will have to ask for more details as it has been a very long time and Dr.Jones and his wife have been away from home for almost One year doing service in a needy community .

I believe this one year commitment will be up the end of this month?

respectfully
Chet K
PS
I see above the last discussion from Dr.Jones ,the community here showing gratitude for
open source research and people who try and help the researchers.... anyway they can.

very good to read that again ,we need more of that in this world , 
people who can't do experiments helping people who can with funds for equipment and bits and pieces
Open source ...
its a good path towards success and a good example for the kids to read.

and perhaps a summary at the end of an old thread would be a good idea too, in ALL cases ?
however experimenting with very efficient circuits at the hobbyist level and also the possibilities
which can arise in such well tuned circuits.............

you never know ?

maybe someday there really will be an 8 time over unity Joule thief

[pomodoro]

I might have  wrong the chap  but I think he has the same name as the scientist who discovered cold fusion.  Fleishmann and Pons  essentially ripped him off as Jones was being careful not to publish prematurely just incase there were errors. The other two broke their promise and published. The rest is history.

[ramset]

You have the right name and person , just more to it ..
and no I don't believe there were any thefts ,it is a passion which lingers with Dr.Jones and many others to this day.
however a good repeatable "simple" experiment is quite elusive ,and the example of a good joule thief to play with [starting point] for induction experiments ?[bench mark for progress

a similar format needs to be brought into LENR experiments

perhaps in the way Alexander Parkhomov is doing ...
a very simple starting point .?
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open source experiments are hard to come by in this area ,people see anomalies and run
to the "investor" and big dreams ...Patents and such.

You are a great contributor here ,it is my hope that such simple experiments will be happening
here in the near future , exploring and defining Anomalies ,
sonoluminescence is on the menu ATM and where can that take us ...to LENR ??

it will be a very simple format ,or starting point ...so many can experiment.

who knows..?...nothing ventured nothing gained.


and all open source

respectfully
Chet K