PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[sm0ky2]

Zephir
your example here
http://overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/msg353409/#msg353409
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I believe Larry's [ Itseung]circuit has been looked at and similar issues were found [measurement error]
however if you feel something was missed or have other ideas which may yield results ?

please feel free to present a circuit for consideration ?

with respect
Chet K

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9RgjAgSQOg


Secondary winding on this joule thief fed a bi-filar primary
On a 7-inch steel toroid, through a second transistor
To light a another series of led's.
When switching out of phase, there were specific frequencies
at which led brightness increased and current draw from the
(mostly dead) battery decreased.


A single joule thief made from the 7-inch toroid, one transistor
and the same battery - did not function. There simply wasn't enough
power to saturate the large steel ring and light any led.

[sm0ky2]

... I still believe there is possible a concept of a more efficient battery or similar device. Recently I found this link where a girl (yes, a girl) says she invented such one. Since this presentation was published several months ago, I want to ask guys who more often visit this site, if they maybe spot some more info about this device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtGWCalIYg

It is a 4-tank salt battery.  Reduced to a small scale.
Sodium Chloride and Sodium Sulfate
With (purified) water the 4 tanks take on four distinct
Ionic solution states.
A membrane (or in this case a stack of membranes)
Controls a one-way flow of ions and cations that maintain
a charge separation with immense current carrying capacity.
Large scale salt batteries are already in commercial production
and use. What these girls have done is shrunk it down and
given it a portability never before seen in this type of battery.
Currently existing units are the size of a small building.


They can be charged by conventional means and store power for
an indefinite period of time. Some tens of decades (estimated).

[Qwert]

Thanks guys.

[synchro1]

Dr. Jones circuit puts out a 2.8 megahertz signal. The DVD audio signal is at a matching freqency. Most of us have seen digital frequency generators illuminate bulbs. It may be possible to illuminate LEDS through the USB port at this frequecy which is carried by a WiFi signal, not a bench model. The factory specifications on frequency and efficiency show the diode generates power with increased frequency.
Replicating this signal on a frequency generator and measuring its effect on an LED may show an overunity effect in the diode.


Phtovoltaic efficiency of 40% would yield over 3x the input from a sphere of bulbs and a shell of Photo Voltaic Collectors.

[synchro1]

The Joule thief would only need to add 4 percent to run free at that frequency. This is inside the flyback boost capacity of the circuit. Running free of charge would accrue an OU factor reflecting multiples of the source power over time. Collecting power from a unity device would equal the efficiency of the voltaic cell. The LED generates nearly all its own power at that frequency. Simple math will prove the output minus the 60 percent collector loss makes an OU photonic reactor feasible.