PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

Steven & all
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this correction brings the 'n' for my system more in line with the results for your bi-filar system showing 'n' =  182 / 102= 1.78
thanks
np

http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Chris:

@All - I have fixed the scope Probe draning he output problem, I put another diode in place where I had it before as well as the one Xee2 suggested. It has made a difference. Still getting OU Measurements.

Thank you so much for replications -- GREAT work!  very encouraging, although I realize much work remains to be done.

I'm here in Calif at a conference, where I have broached the topic of "new energy devices" with colleagues.  The research was surprisingly well-received.   Consensus is that we will need to:
1.  get the device to self-run
2.  do experiments to find out where the energy is coming from.

I'd like to contribute as much as I can to these critical steps.  Nul-pts and Chris, there have been variations to the basic circuit, which is great -- but would you re-post your "best" version please?  by Wed pm when I will finally get back to my home lab would be GREAT.  My plan is to replicate your latest versions, with your permission, and then proceed with steps 1 and 2 above, after I re-check the Pin and Pout with the Tek 3032...  I'll use a cap for Pin and measure Pin that way also, as a check.

I would appreciate some further discussion on point 2:   do experiments to find out where the energy is coming from.

A faraday cage will be an obvious start; having a self-running device would make such tests much easier.

I also have a few ideas to add... later, as I'm at a hotel again.  Surrounded right now by colleagues, discussing the problems at Fukushima (sp?) Japan with the leaking reactors -- and the oil spill in the Caribbean.  GREAT support for this energy research!

[nul-points]

Hi Nul-Points,

Thanks for the update
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I am going to try one more wind on my toroid. Instead of Tri-Filar, one filar for the feed back oscillator and two filars hooked in series like in the Tesla Patent
[...]
  Chris

i guess it's a bit more evidence for Steven - i'm not sure if my DVM data is as representative/accurate as your scope data, though

i'm interested to hear how your new wind performs

i'm going to try for another view on the relative i/p to o/p energy - coming up...

thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[nul-points]

 
Steven

i've 'unlooped' my inverted SJ1 circuit to try a  'cell-->circuit-->cell' setup
(please see schematic below)

i believe that NiMHs are only about 50% efficient at storing i/p charge energy, so an approx.  value of 'n' = 2 would be required to maintain the charge in this new setup when swapping the two cells between test runs

with my updated value of 'n' = 1.6, we wouldn't expect to maintain charge

anyway, i've started monitoring terminal voltage trend data for the two cells to get another view of the performance for this system


member 'Tudi' has suggested connecting two SJ1 circuits 'back to back' to try for a self-running system

its looking to me like that test is going to be necessary to give a definitive answer to whether these values of 'n' > 1 can translate into clearly 'visible' improvement of performance


hope your trip has gone well

[EDIT:  apologies, Steven, our posts just crossed!  glad your conference is going well!  will be happy to help with more info where i can  - also, please feel free to use anything here of mine which proves useful

i'm using an inverted variant of your circuit at the moment for historical reasons (initially wanted to harvest coil-collapse current back into supply with just the original bi-filar windings) but  tertiary winding now decouples o/p current sense from driving circuit, so the loop-back & charging tests can be applied to your original configuration with an NPN transistor]

thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[Tudi]

@nul-points : the idea about having 3 circuits and not 2 is that in case it operates only in a specific volt/amp range, then you can divide the output of C1 to C2 and C3, then you can sum the output of C2 and C3 to see if it indeed scales.
It is possible that if you chain only 2 circuits in series, output of C2 will be the "same" as C1 ( In case there is a specific range this circuit will function. There is always a physical limit for physical devices )
+ Someone mentioned the output is inverted input. Chaining 2 circuits should eliminate the need of a rectifier.

[hyiq]

Hi All,

Steven, I agree. The most important thing is to get it to self run. Its different Measureing OU and actually having a machine that can self run and provide output power. In my opinion its important to find the best improvements to increase the output so we can step this up a knotch.

Where this power is comming from? I already have an idea but do not yet wish to discuss on the forums.

Nul-Points - Excellent work! I like your Circuit diagrams. Nice and clear.

I have some time on my hands for the next few hours now so will try a few more things out. I need to get some more parts, more high F Toriods and so on.

All the best

  Chris