PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[hyiq]

What do you think about an
Amidon FT140A-J

goldmine is sold out of the G6683

Hi dimbulb,

I have not got any but yeah give them a go, try anything you can get your hands on.

best of luck

  Chris

[JouleSeeker]

  Chris -- I agree with Bruce-TPU that your design and build are looking very good. 
I use the instantaneous power-waveform method, multiplying V(t) * I(t) for the power (input and output separately), and that's what gave me the super-efficiency result I reported, noting this is "evidence for" rather than proof.

Certainly no measurement method tops the self-running prototype.

  Still traveling, visiting my son this evening.  He's sharp, in his thirties, has some good ideas about open source and getting a product out without the impedance/hindrance from the patent system... How to de-centralize production, etc..  (A bit ahead of where we are now, but something to plan for IMO>) 

Still in Calif.  When I get back to my home lab, I can look at the power waveform and give you more feedback on your  latest versions, Chris and nul-pts.

The bottom line  I think is agreed by all -- we need to loop back (some of) the output power and feed it back into the input and get a self-runner.  The first bona fide self-runner "wins"!
   

[Tudi]

Chris, i read eagerly your every update and cross my fingers that you succeed. I'm a professional noob and can't build even such a simple circuit, so you guys are my super heroes .
Since day 1 i tried to convince people that you should be trying to extract / store the output energy in any form you wish ( heat, mechanical, electrical ) instead looping it back. Such a circuit can behave as an energy storage system : slowly draining input, using it for some type of consumer a part of the energy, looping it back.. after a while a balance builds up about the amount it is consumed/eaten up/looped. Probably this is what you are measuring. This is why i think the looping idea as nice it sounds, it is not valid as long as you are constantly feeding the circuit.
I also think that at this frequency it is almost irelevant to try to make precise measurements. I and V might be out of phase, your osciloscope has 1 time reference point and you are measuring at 2 points. Use at least 2 scopes to be able to obtain in phase scope V(t)*I(t) measurements. Even so. This circuit according to osciloscope tends to be in the range of MegaHertz. Most osciloscopes crap out at even Kilohertz range. I think the simplest proof is that you get negative input values. You can make 128 point measurements / second but at MHz range that is 1million / 128 precision ( 0.000128 % correctness in 1 second interval for energy amount ? )
Don't take these as negative comments. As i said. I'm just a noob trying to contribute what i can.

[hyiq]

Hi All,

I have spent a few hours today trying to get the Dual Circuit, see below Picture, to run itself. So far, no luck. Still working on it.

All the best

  Chris

[hyiq]

Hi Tudi,

I agree, there is a looping there, I am at the point now that I am going to try NON Polarised Caps in my Circuit to try to get the Looping running better.

Its entirely possible, like Steven said, this Circuit is not OU. Even though it does consistently give good measurements, it may not be.

I will keep at it, thanks for your advise and encouragement!

All the best

  Chris