PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[forest]

  I have posed the question about the two dipoles on 2 physics forums... no answer yet.

As mentioned in the first post here, one may add a material M of high magnetic permeability on the Z axis, extending between the loops.
 
Now the speed of propagation for the changing B field in this material becomes important. 
In vacuum, a change in the B field -- that "information" -- will propagate at the speed of light. 
But in M, the propagation speed will be less because the dipoles in M must physically move (align) to become more oriented (for an increasing B).  This takes time.
Indeed, the magnetic propagation speed may be much less than c.

OK -- to simplify, take a strong permanent magnet and attach it (very rapidly) to the end of a rod made of nanoperm, no, let's make it iron (so that we might find a speed-value in existing literature).

How fast will the B-field from this magnet travel along the iron?

I think this is an important question -- does anyone know if magnetic-field propagation speeds for various materials have been measured?

This may all seem very esoteric, but I hope to demonstrate that this relates to achieving OU... in time as we proceed.

You are good, man ! Yes, this is one way to "violate" len'z law, and plenty patents exists on this topic.The most famous is Kuner patent, other also famous is Floyd Sweet VTA device...and probably one version of Steven Mark  TPU.Add this also all thouse various magnetic flux modification patents.

[dimbulb]

  I have posed the question about the two dipoles on 2 physics forums... no answer yet.

As mentioned in the first post here, one may add a material M of high magnetic permeability on the Z axis, extending between the loops.
 
Now the speed of propagation for the changing B field in this material becomes important. 
In vacuum, a change in the B field -- that "information" -- will propagate at the speed of light. 
But in M, the propagation speed will be less because the dipoles in M must physically move (align) to become more oriented (for an increasing B).  This takes time.
Indeed, the magnetic propagation speed may be much less than c.

OK -- to simplify, take a strong permanent magnet and attach it (very rapidly) to the end of a rod made of nanoperm, no, let's make it iron (so that we might find a speed-value in existing literature).

How fast will the B-field from this magnet travel along the iron?

I think this is an important question -- does anyone know if magnetic-field propagation speeds for various materials have been measured?

This may all seem very esoteric, but I hope to demonstrate that this relates to achieving OU... in time as we proceed.

I agree whole heatedly, that the narrow window of opportunity happens in copper
at 1.5 x 10e-19 seconds.  For everyone to have a piece of wire that is doped so the time of relaxation is in 1 x 10e-3 Sec would require a materials scientist so we have been
stumbling along putting diodes in series and making Hutchison power cells barely lighting an led has been less than dignified.

[CompuTutor]

I agree whole heatedly...

Heheh, funny pun

Intended, or typo ?

[synchro1]

  I have posed the question about the two dipoles on 2 physics forums... no answer yet.

As mentioned in the first post here, one may add a material M of high magnetic permeability on the Z axis, extending between the loops.
 
Now the speed of propagation for the changing B field in this material becomes important. 
In vacuum, a change in the B field -- that "information" -- will propagate at the speed of light. 
But in M, the propagation speed will be less because the dipoles in M must physically move (align) to become more oriented (for an increasing B).  This takes time.
Indeed, the magnetic propagation speed may be much less than c.

OK -- to simplify, take a strong permanent magnet and attach it (very rapidly) to the end of a rod made of nanoperm, no, let's make it iron (so that we might find a speed-value in existing literature).

How fast will the B-field from this magnet travel along the iron?

I think this is an important question -- does anyone know if magnetic-field propagation speeds for various materials have been measured?

This may all seem very esoteric, but I hope to demonstrate that this relates to achieving OU... in time as we proceed.

The speed your talking about is the speed of gravity. Tesla maintained that it's Pi over 2 times C. Take the sun away, and you don't think the Earth would continue to orbit empty space for 8 minutes do you? Gravity's traveling faster then the speed of light by exactly that much, and so is the longitudinal magnetic power wave, currently known as the scaler wave. Measuring the speed your talking about really dosen't make any sense because it travels through time and arrives before it leaves in the future!

[jbignes5]

 Hasn't anyone figured out that you guys are shorting out the magnetic field into the core. You are only using the e-field. This is why you are starting to scratch the surface of this. When you short out the heavy magnetic field the e-field becomes free to attract charges<-heavy magnetic field particles to the source e-field. I would not be using this in a Faraday cage because you are limiting your unit from collecting the charges and yes the charges are in the form of heat.

These systems run cold because they are depleted of their ambient charges or heat and then draw in charges from the e-field to follow back to the source high voltage(wire). This is where this energy is coming from. Increase the voltage and the field grows to collect from a bigger area. Give the field a different geometry and it will focus or amplify this collected charges. Now if you did a short test of adding an antenna of say 12 inches and a smaller in dimension antenna with equal mass to the system you might be able to draw even more and amplify the results by concentrating the collected charges onto the smaller antenna.

I doubt you will be able to effectively measure the power input in traditional ways here. This voltage has nearly no amperage at all. That means it is using the sub component of our traditional electricity. When you have one half of the fields
locked into the torrid there is very little resistance and hence the lower amp draw from the source. Except of course to fill the components with both the fields. Once the magnetic field is at full strength in the core then the draw goes way down and the e-field is free to interact with the environment.

I know this changes the direction to this experiment but I highly believe this system you are looking at is too closed looped to draw in enough to be useful. What you need to do is shield the wires with a static shielding all around the system then expose the antennas to the environment. Do not ground the shielding, leave it be so it creates an inductive bottle and keep the voltage from being satisfied by the environmental charges. Once the charges enter the system from the environment you should see plenty of power in the load.

If I'm way to off from your experiment then maybe there is something in my words that might clue you into knowing what is happening in this system you are looking at.