PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Hope]

Steve,

It is the same as nul-points just linked  "Using the Tesla Switch".

Looks like the scope is at the P.O. and I should be able to pick it up Monday.

[JouleSeeker]

  Thanks NP and Hope:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch-120.html

Now, that thread is about 120 pages long!    Can someone summarize a little pls -- what is the key concept/design here?   how is OU measured for this?   

(Or are there a FEW key pages?)

[nul-points]

  Thanks NP and Hope:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch-120.html

Now, that thread is about 120 pages long!    Can someone summarize a little pls -- what is the key concept/design here?   how is OU measured for this?   

(Or are there a FEW key pages?)

the concept is to switch charge from one set of batteries to another, through a load and charging the 2nd battery set - with the intention of later swapping the roles of the supply and charging battery sets, etc

the setup is usually called a 'Tesla Switch' but apparently has no direct link with any of Tesla's designs

the aim is to pulse charge the 2nd battery set whilst also gaining useful work from the charge transfer

early circuits were mostly just switching charge directly, but some recent designs also attempt to capture and return coil-field collapse energy into the batteries

the recent development i mentioned above, re: the 'Joule Thief' thread on this forum is related to this concept

my latest SJ1 variant shown above is using 2x AAA NiMHs in series to charge 2x AAA NiMHs in parallel to test if there is any evidence for OU when using this technique with the family of circuits we've been investigating here on your thread

one of the members at the EF link i provided above is intending to produce a 'How To' file to gather all the info necessary to replicate - watch that space!

hope this helps
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[jbignes5]

 I think you missed a key component of the Tesla switch. You run a load off of one polarity. Tie both negatives together and run a load off of just the positive. If you have 4 12 volt batteries, 2 in series and 2 in parallel there is a voltage difference between the two. One set of 12 volt batteries is 12 volts parallel. The other is 24 volts in series. Now hook a load in between the positives only and you can run a 12 volt load and charge the parallel batteries all at the same time.
The switch part is rather complicated and very difficult to master. Ronald Brant was the only one that I know of to do this in a silicon version. But there were reports of very weird things happening while using his system. Especially if it sat still and idled for extended periods of time. The switch part has to deal with 4 batteries as said before but the system itself switches the batteries around via complicated relays and strategic diodes in order to automatically switch the batteries from series on one side to parallel on the other. When this happens you need to use the now ac power or use a diode rectifier to change the now ac signal from the swapping back and forth to dc for use.

[JouleSeeker]

  This is very helpful, NP, as always.    I had not realized that your latest incorporates some of these same ideas.    I think this is very exciting -- and I hope we all see some approach working well, to benefit humanity at large.   We see the markets falling again today, as if "financial energy" is being sucked out of the system.  I'm also trying to understand your comment, Jbignes5-- thank you.

the concept is to switch charge from one set of batteries to another, through a load and charging the 2nd battery set - with the intention of later swapping the roles of the supply and charging battery sets, etc

the setup is usually called a 'Tesla Switch' but apparently has no direct link with any of Tesla's designs

the aim is to pulse charge the 2nd battery set whilst also gaining useful work from the charge transfer

early circuits were mostly just switching charge directly, but some recent designs also attempt to capture and return coil-field collapse energy into the batteries

the recent development i mentioned above, re: the 'Joule Thief' thread on this forum is related to this concept

my latest SJ1 variant shown above is using 2x AAA NiMHs in series to charge 2x AAA NiMHs in parallel to test if there is any evidence for OU when using this technique with the family of circuits we've been investigating here on your thread

one of the members at the EF link i provided above is intending to produce a 'How To' file to gather all the info necessary to replicate - watch that space!

hope this helps
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com