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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

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Bruce_TPU

#195
June 05, 2011, 08:53:38 PM
Hi hyiq,

Version 3 and version 4, show aprox 19 times COP.  My suggestion would be to go back to them, and instead of trying to increase the COP even more, to use the output to drive say 3 more identical circuits.  Now, you have amplified the COP to 60.

Now for the sake of some fun math, think of the following...  You have COP of 19 and you run the output into 10 identical circuits, as their input, and now you have amplified the COP to 190 times, the output over the input.

And then, anywhere along the line, you tap in, loop it and make it self run.  Then, to scale it up, you shrink it down.  All of the components, except for the toroid are made into a chip.  These can then be added, as many as needed for the power needed.

In the meantime, the good professor and others can begin to figure out the source of the excess power.  Just saying it "comes from the ambient" is simply a way of saying, "we have no idea from where the access is coming from." IMHO  Is it coming from standing waves, harmonics, intermodulation, from?  IF the circuit is truly putting out more output then input, then all of the above is doable.  I for one know that there is an untapped ocean of power via geometric progression harmonics linked to the resonance of the cavity between the ionesphere and the earth, known as the Shumanns resonance.  It would also be interesting to compare the toroid diameter, to a wavelength, and look with a spectrum analyzer at the harmonics being produced.

There has to be a mechanism for gain, in play.  So identifying it, and scaling up as suggested should be the priority, in my humble opinion. 

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

hyiq

#196
June 05, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 05, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Great work.  Remember that the original JTs were bifilar so I am not too surprised at your measuring difficulties as many of us have been through this.  I have never claimed OU for any of my JT circuits but, I have always thought that there was something there so I wish you, and Dr. Jones the best in proving this out.  This is great stuff.

Bill

Hi Bill,

Thanks! I can fairly consistantly measure OU on this circuit. It does not mean it is OU though. I am trying to prove either way. This is an interesting Circuit.

@All - I have fixed the scope Probe draning he output problem, I put another diode in place where I had it before as well as the one Xee2 suggested. It has made a difference. Still getting OU Measurements.

All the best

  Chris

hyiq

#197
June 05, 2011, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on June 05, 2011, 08:53:38 PM
Hi hyiq,

Version 3 and version 4, show aprox 19 times COP.  My suggestion would be to go back to them, and instead of trying to increase the COP even more, to use the output to drive say 3 more identical circuits.  Now, you have amplified the COP to 60.

Now for the sake of some fun math, think of the following...  You have COP of 19 and you run the output into 10 identical circuits, as their input, and now you have amplified the COP to 190 times, the output over the input.

And then, anywhere along the line, you tap in, loop it and make it self run.  Then, to scale it up, you shrink it down.  All of the components, except for the toroid are made into a chip.  These can then be added, as many as needed for the power needed.

In the meantime, the good professor and others can begin to figure out the source of the excess power.  Just saying it "comes from the ambient" is simply a way of saying, "we have no idea from where the access is coming from." IMHO  Is it coming from standing waves, harmonics, intermodulation, from?  IF the circuit is truly putting out more output then input, then all of the above is doable.  I for one know that there is an untapped ocean of power via geometric progression harmonics linked to the resonance of the cavity between the ionesphere and the earth, known as the Shumanns resonance.  It would also be interesting to compare the toroid diameter, to a wavelength, and look with a spectrum analyzer at the harmonics being produced.

There has to be a mechanism for gain, in play.  So identifying it, and scaling up as suggested should be the priority, in my humble opinion. 

Cheers,

Bruce

Hi Bruce,

Exactly Right! I agree. This latest experiment does give a few small clues. EG: Self Inductance may be playing a role and so on.

I do plan to back track for a bit. I just dont want to pass this over to easy just in case there is something I am missing.

I will come back with some more data soon.

Is anyone else replicating? Would like to see some results other then mine? Just to confirm my measurements are not spirious.

All the best

  Chris

nul-points

#198
June 05, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
 
Steven & all

my apologies - i obviously had my brain in 'Park' last Friday!

the value for 'n' in my looped inverted sj1 circuit should be 1.62

(81uW In; 131uW Out)

i was obviously feeling greedy that day and tried to 'sneak' the DC Power Input in with the value for the total energy converted


Chris
this correction brings the 'n' for my system more in line with the results for your bi-filar system showing 'n' =  182 / 102= 1.78


thanks
np


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hyiq

#199
June 06, 2011, 01:06:29 AM
Hi Nul-Points,

Thanks for the update. I was starting to think I was going mad.  :o

Its good to know this is something others are seeing. Before I go back to the single power coil I am going to try one more wind on my toroid. Instead of Tri-Filar, one filar for the feed back oscillator and two filars hooked in series like in the Tesla Patent, I am going to wind Bi-Filar power coil on 0.75 of the Toroid and a single coil on the other 0.25 part.

I will report results asap. If this fails then back to the last circuit.

All the best and thanks for reporting results!

  Chris
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