PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[MarkE]

@Milehigh,

Do yourself a favor pal; Phone an ambulance and ask them to drop you off at the local Psych Ward please! You're the one with a bunch of misplaced Bananas!

Synchro1 Naudin's conclusions are a joke for the reasons that I just stated.

[MileHigh]

Thanks Mark for explaining what JLN really did in that experiment.  It was so retarded that I could not even bother to invest the time in digging that deep.  And it's still shocking to me.

This is Synchro1's cue to run away.  For some people it's almost impossible to admit that they were wrong and I don't want to single Synchro1 out from the pack.  A classic "rebuttal" from some believers (that typically have very little technical knowledge) is to throw an insult at the person, never discuss the technical merits (or lack of technical merits) of the proposition, and then run away without having the character to admit that they were wrong or the reference that they were citing was wrong.  You quickly get used to it.

It's like a funny scene in that Peter Seller's classic comedy "The Party."  He is fiddling with some electronics stuff in the host's apartment and breaks it.  Ten seconds later the host discovers the problem and the camera slowly pans up and the Peter Sellers character is seen far away on the other side of the apartment.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

Maybe you have more history with synchro1 than I do.  While he is mistaken, he pulled up a reference that if one did not know better, one might have thought reliably supported the idea.  Of course it did not, or JLN would have been off the grid four years ago.  I have not gone back to read the paper that JLN supposedly referenced for his experiments.

Insert an inductor and a catch diode into the forward path and the layout is a classic isolated forward converter with and RCD flux reset, ala a circa 1980 International Rectifier application note.

[d3x0r]

I would have pursued my argument that it's not just Russ's action that causes the work; the two are inevitably inseparable.
magnetic remanence was used in core memory, so it can be detected and thereby do useful work.  There is a storage of energy, and breaking the loop physically is another way to release that energy.  It may contain additional energy from the physical work done... like charged capacitor plates manually separated; I would have suspected that the physical work was a total loss.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/magperm.html
" Once the magnetic domains are reoriented, it takes some energy to turn them back again. This property of ferrromagnetic materials is useful as a magnetic "memory""
but those are closed systems.

http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/gap/
"Also, you should not be surprised to learn, there is, for every core type, a limit to the amount of energy that may be stored. In the next section you will discover that there is an optimum air gap length, lO, which will deliver that energy. Table AGT shows lO for a range of core types, under the following conditions -"

There's so few applications of PMH like-things that I assume it's sold as non-issue(not worth computing of classifying) and is dismissed as 'physical work produces energy' and there's so often easier means to that end(making energy).  I'm not saying it's extra, but given that there was additional physical work applied, it probably is, but not more than the total applied (work to align the domains and then the physical work to cause an airgap).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_circuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_UHixEy7xU  Switching Permantent Magnet Field
Tom Bearden on Radus Magnetic boots http://www.cheniere.org/misc/astroboots.htm
http://www-tc.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/static/media/transcripts/2011-05-22/801_spaceboot.pdf (interview with Chris Radus, son of William Radus)

Certainly the magnetic flux path has a strength, and therefore a force itself, because, again, without magnetic domains aligned, removing the keeper does nothing, so it's not just a physical action.

Wikipedia says 'magnetic boots were never used by astronauts, because of potential interference with electrical systems'

--------
Practical implementation of flux switching : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_switching_alternator (actually looks like a QEG)
http://www.fleadh.co.uk/srm.htm  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_reluctance_motor)

I tried to avoid obvious 'free energy' references; but I'll throw this paper in too http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/magtrans.htm 
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/magnetictechnology.htm  (jeo flynn parallel-path magnetic stuff)
-------
more for others to pursue the idea a google search for 'magnetic flux switch' might be of interest
------
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/flux-switching/text/overefficient-permanent-magnetic-holding-device/  ; this looks more like the programmed magnets from http://www.correlatedmagnetics.com/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBHWUUtJH6U  ; Various combinations of N/S sub-poles within a larger magnetic material causes repel until close enough to attach, and attract until close enough to repel; also used for twist-orientation latch/delatch configurations...  I guess I'm starting to diverge from the topic at hand)

[MarkE]

d3, I believe that I have stated several times that there is a very small amount of energy in the iron.  But it is really quite a tiny fraction of the work that is done lighting the LED.  As you have researched, switched reluctance machines have been around for a long time.  None of them have ever been found by careful measurements to be over unity.