New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom

[ramset]

This is a repost of the first post in this thread ,I have also invited some of the fellows from Tom's thread at the energetic forum to have a look!

Tom
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I have decided to let you and the world in on all I have done. YOU CAN POST THIS LETTER ON ANY WEB SITE YOU WISH. I hope others give it a try using their own ideas as they go along. I will send you a photo tomorrow of my device that still need runner magnet work.

My idea has to be executed with great care and there is a lot of adjusting and experimenting to do. If not done correctly with care this device will not work.


I am having trouble right now positioning my runner magnet in the exact spot to make the device operate again.

We are only interested in the repel mode Attract is out If you find the magnets attract each other you are not going to have results.

Here is how it works:

You have a wooden Lazy Susan turntable in front of you made with very thick wood. So much the better if the bearings are 316 grade stainless steel. My bearings are not. Try to stay away from using ferrous materials

In the exact center of the top of the lazy susan drill a 3/8 inch hole and insert a 316 grade stainless steel or brass rod. Threaded is good.

That rod should have a pointed top end so a plastic nylon ball with a 3/8 inch hole drilled half way through it can be placed on the top of the rod. That ball should be able to rotate easily through 360 degrees.

I used a 1 inch diameter plastic ball knob and coated it with light grease.

Next comes the fun part. Buy a very large powerful ceramic ring magnet having a large diameter but small center hole. My magnet diameter is 4.5 inches with a center hole of 1.75 inches. It weighs 5.5 pounds.!!! I placed a "brass bearing" inside that hole and now my inside diameter was 1 inch.

Before you put the bearing through the ring magnets center you must solder or weld a round non ferrous cap to the top side of the bearing.


Now epoxy the capped bearing inside the ring magnets center.hole.

After the epoxy sets you take the ball with the drilled hole and put it on the senter shaft so it rotates. Grease the ball head

Now you take your modified monster ring magnet and place the BRASS CUP you just made over the plastic ball and set the magnet down.

Notice now that the huge ring magnet now can not only pivot but turn and tilt as well. YOU JUST MADE A HUGE RING MAGNET BALL JOINT.

Next is the part that will try your patients.

You need a short very powerful neo rod magnet. I used two stacked 1.5 inch long ,75 inch diameter rod magnet sections. My total lenght was 3 inches.

Take that rod magnet and mount on a 45 degree wood section so that the magnet side that is up repels the huge ring magnet. You should be able to place that runner magnet """DIRECTLY UNDER THE RING MAGNET."""

That action forces the ring magnet on top of the runner to TILT UP if you did that correcty. YOU WILL HAVE TO EXPERIMENT TO FIND JUST THE RIGHT SPOT.

ANY ATTRACTION IS A NO NO

Now since the runner magnet is not mounded in the exact center of the lazy susan it should turn the lazy susan.platform. Notice as it is turning the heavy huge ring magnet is also TILTING, TURNING, and pushing the runner magnet along.

The runner magnet can not excape this becuase it is ALWAYS GOING TO BE UNDER THE HEAVY UMBRELLA OF THE RING MAGNET SEEKING THE EASY PATH TO EXCAPE. THE LAZY SUSAN TABLE WILL TURN IN THAT DIRECTION.

THE 45 DEGREE MOUNTING OF THE RUNNER MAGNET VECTORS SOME OF THE GRAVITY FORCES ( WEIGHT) OF THE RING MAGNET INTO TURNING THE LAZY SUSAN PLATFORM.

Post where you see fit.

Tom

P.S: My ring magnet will always have part of its weight pushing down on the runner magnet under it. In otherwards the ring magnet will always be tilted as it turns over the runner magnet spinning around and under it.

I also forgot to mention that the runner magnet not only is mounted on a 45 degree ramp but is also fixed at a 45 degree angle to the center axis of device. This positioning allows the lazy susan to turn.

Photos or a video will follow later today and you can post both the previous letter and the photos or video.. This letter also

Tom

[Low-Q]

Let us hope that Tom can get his machine working again. I do not hope this machine is just one of the numberless other "working machines" which suddenly went into problems BEFORE the inventor did have time to actually get the working machine om tape. Also typical, is the problems with money. The camcorder does not longer work etc. etc. Often the "required final adjustments" takes forever, because the inventor did actually NOT have a working prototype at all. Let us hope that isn't the case this time.

Vidar

[Airstriker]

Let us hope that Tom can get his machine working again.

I don't recall him saying it does no longer work ;> He only said that at the beginning of his work on this device. Now it's working and that's why the videos are gone. Am I right Tom ?

[CuriousChris]

Chris

I have a small plating biz and will not be able to resist the urge To "play" with a Neo if it becomes necessary at some point .
Chrome is no defence against Porosity,and stripping it off and Fussing about
with it could reveal more than Conjecture?
As Far as Poisons and Danger ,Like I said I've had a small plating Biz for more than 20 yrs, poisons galore, and Quite dangerous if safety protocols are not followed.
Chet

Point 24 has some more to say about attacking neo magnets with heavy machinery. The fire bit is worrisome.

http://www.gaussboys.com/pages.php?pageid=11

Let us hope that Tom can get his machine working again. I do not hope this machine is just one of the numberless other "working machines" which suddenly went into problems BEFORE the inventor did have time to actually get the working machine om tape. Also typical, is the problems with money. The camcorder does not longer work etc. etc. Often the "required final adjustments" takes forever, because the inventor did actually NOT have a working prototype at all. Let us hope that isn't the case this time.

Vidar

Its often the case the inventor assumes it would work. and pre announces their breakthrough, sometimes they hold the magnet with their hand (in the case of a magnet motor) and get so excited thinking 'eureka it works' when in fact its their hand and involuntary motion that causes it to work. as soon as they affix the magnet it stops working.

Unfortunately I can see nothing in Toms description that leads me to believe it would work. Perhaps I just don't understand the layout. As I see it, as the lazy susan turns the neodymium magnet must lift the large ferrite ring magnet. There is as I see it no reason for this to happen, once the ring magnet has tilted it will stay that way. gravity will see to it.

I did like the simple gimbal (ball and socket joint) arrangement though.

CC

[ramset]

Chris
I'm sorry for being difficult regaurding the dangers of Fussing with Neo's
Having started My adult Life  at 14 years old Hanging onto Recips with the prop screaming Hairs away,I learned very early in life to be careful..........
And as far as Fire Hazard ?Jets and Turbines made me very cautious there!{very]

Regaurding The above first post of Tom's on this thread,I don't really see a reference in that early June post to "Spheres" or multiple spheres?

Something big took place in those 30 or so days playing with the Susan?

I suppose I reposted it to try and see where Spheres would evolve from this design?

?

Chet