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Romero's experiments and OU principles

Started by plengo, June 10, 2011, 08:26:08 PM

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hyiq


Hi RomeroUK,

I know youre swamped with questions. I am sorry, I have another.

In your Muller Motor Replication, do the Rotor Permanent Magnets (15mm in length) Reverse Saturate the Ferrite Cores in the Coils, forcing the flux from the Backing Permentent Magnets (5-10mm) out of the core, then once the Rotor Permenent Magnet has passed allowing the Backing Permanent Magnet's Flux to collapse back in to the core?

Is this why you need washers glued to the Stator?

Could this be why the speed of the Rotor is important? Maybe its also why there is so much adjustment to get "this effect"?

Thank You for your time in trying to help us!

All the best

  Chris

hyiq


So if this is true, all you pay for on the input, is, to spin the Rotor up. The "Work" is done by an oscillation between the Rotor Permanent Magnet, the Core Material, and the Backing Coil Permanent Magnet.

Ideally a Backing Permanent Magnet on a threaded adjustment would be nice. There must be a relationship, between, the

Rotor Permanent Magnet Strength,
Core Material Saturation and
Backing Permanent Magnet Strength and importantly the
Length of the Coil and Core.

All of the Motor Concepts in the RomeroUK Muller replication are the same as Richard Willis's Motor seen here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqDS8QQ_9Z0

We can list the effect similarity's:

1: No Lenz's Law effects seen on the running system.
2: Rotor and Backing Coil Permanent Magnets used.
3: High Output for the size of the coils used.
4: Load is connected to the Motor once Motor is up to speed. Not before.
5: Big Permanent Magnet, small Permanent Magnets are used, this is in reverse to Richard, Richard had big Permanent Magnets on the Stator, RomeroUK has big Permanent Magnets on the Rotor (I believe to be a better way to do it)
6: Rotor Speed was fairly slow compared to the level of output, in the area of 1400 - 2000 RPM's.
7: a type of Sweet spot is optimal for the best output.

The list goes on.

Well I hope this helps those out there. I am now going to re-build my motor to prove or disprove this information. To me there is to much of a similarity here.

All the best

  Chris






Fjodor

Hi,

I don't have a good understanding of electrics, but I am wondering how the RomeroUK Muller generator works
and where it gets its energy surplus from.

My understanding of this document:
http://ir.library.tohoku.ac.jp/re/bitstream/10097/47751/1/10.1109-20.908927.pdf
is, that the resonant frequency of a ferrite core is corresponding to a certain temperature.

I am wondering what happens, when one puts a ferrite Core (with coil) to its resonant frequency,
and then approaches the core with temperature (hair dryer).
Will the core try to maintain its resonant state (and temperature)?

If this is the case, then the RomeroUK Muller generator will work when the cores have a resonant
frequency/temperature below the ambient temperature/operating temperature of the device.

Does this make sense?
Has this already been tried somewhere/somehow?

Best regards,
Fjodor

romerouk

@hyiq
yes, there is a connection with Magnacoaster setup but not all aspects.I tried to do Magnacoaster solidstate and no success using the info from the patent.I changed the wrong diodes orientation, tried many things but nothing.Using that patent info and changed it a bit then we can get good results.Richard has not disclosed all info in the patent, the core shape and the coils are not described and that makes the big difference.
I've got some ideas today and I might be able to make it solidstate, maybe...

Regards,
Romero

bolt

Well we find out soon enough i guess if he really has ironed out all the overheating bugs etc as i just found his back order sheet with delivery schedule. About $400,000 worth of orders here to fill. Orders supposed to be completed over the coming weeks now he has fixed all the problems.

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VORK-00000102   11/3/2008   WA   USA   7/21/2011   7/19/2011
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VORK-00000104   10/24/2008   CO   USA   7/22/2011   7/20/2011
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VORK-00000107   1/7/2009   BC   CANADA   RMA   7/21/2011
VORK-00000108   1/9/2009   MANITOBA   CANADA   7/25/2011   7/22/2011
VORK-00000109   1/15/2009   Ruelzheim   GERMANY   7/25/2011   7/22/2011
VORK-00000110   1/22/2009   NH   USA   7/27/2011   7/25/2011
VORK-00000111   1/7/2009   VOLUNTARI LIFOV   ROMANIA   7/27/2011   7/25/2011
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VORK-00000117   3/9/2009   CA   USA   8/1/2011   7/28/2011
VORK-00000118   5/8/2009   ONTARIO   CANADA   RMA IN   7/29/2011
VORK-00000119   6/19/2009   BC   CANADA   8/2/2011   7/29/2011
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VORK-00000123   8/26/2009   CO   USA   8/4/2011   8/2/2011
VORK-00000124   9/25/2009   KAUNO RAJ   LITHUANIA   8/5/2011   8/3/2011
VORK-00000125   11/24/2009   UT   USA   8/5/2011   8/3/2011
VORK-00000126   12/8/2009   BC   CANADA   8/8/2011   8/4/2011
VORK-000001260   12/15/2009   KHAYABAN-E-EJAMI CLIFTON   KARACHI, PAKISTAN   8/8/2011   8/4/2011
VORK-00000127   2/10/2010   ONTARIO   CANADA   8/8/2011   8/4/2011
VORK-00000128   2/5/2010   NEW YORK   USA   8/9/2011   8/5/2011
VORK-00000129   3/9/2010   AUSTRIA   EUROPE   8/9/2011   8/5/2011
VORK-00000130   5/17/2010   ALMERIA   SPAIN   8/10/2011   8/8/2011
VORK-00000131   5/25/2010   GUANACASTE   COSTA RICA   8/10/2011   8/8/2011
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VORK-00000136   1/18/2011   ONTARIO   CANADA   8/15/2011   8/11/2011
VORK-00000137   10/30/2009   ONTARIO   CANADA   8/15/2011   8/11/2011
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