Simulation of the Muller Dynamo

[bolt]

There are very clear simulation examples that show ZPE is feasible.
http://philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=233

Yes i know all about that i read all his papers. But his model although allows for ZPE unlike SPICE is tad too optimistic on gains. He is out by a factor of about 10.  His 1000w device is better 100 watts best theoretical and in practice more like 60-80 watts and requires EXCITATION. See my posts on this.

[teslaalset]

Yes i know all about that i read all his papers. But his model although allows for ZPE unlike SPICE is tad too optimistic on gains. He is out by a factor of about 10.  His 1000w device is better 100 watts best theoretical and in practice more like 60-80 watts and requires EXCITATION. See my posts on this.

If you compare Turtur's simulations to what RomeroUK has done, I am not sure the comparison can be made w.r.t. the efficiency.
In quite some aspects RomeroUK's implementation differ from Turtur's approach.
The directions RomoroUK left us contain aspects that leave much room for efficiency improvements.
If one interpretes Turtur's model well, you'll see that some assumptions are incorrect, but those can be easily corrected.
To conclude Turtur's model is too optimistic is too early to say in my view.

B.t.w. Turtur's model only requires exitation to startup. After that exitation can be left out.

[i_ron]

Had a chance to read the patent translation last night.

I still don't see how the inductor can be non-inductive. But, he seems to claim that the effect is at least partially due to the capacitive winding, which of course can not be easily simulated in SPICE. So I think I'll leave this one alone unless/until someone comes up with a brilliant idea.

I would think the best start would be to build the inductor and see if while driving it with an oscillator, it indeed is non-inductive. Ron, have you not already done that with your coil posted on the first page?

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Thank you all for your input here, it helps with my understanding.

I was mainly concerned with the generator aspect of this patented coil. However I see no real advantage as it does reflect back to the prime mover.

In this setup, as per the patent I have a 24 NSNS magnet rotor at 1740 RPM.Best output is with 2 X 25 Mfd for about 18 watts output. But cost 21 watts extra on the PM. (88%)

12 Mfd brought a drop in output and lower efficiency, (87%)

30 Mfd was the best run at 17 watts output for a cost of 16.8 watts

45 Mfd and it started to drop off again (96%)

Not tried is the supposed increase in magnet field as a motor coil...

Ron

Edit: rectified to DC...20 ohm load

[FreeEnergyInfo]

WO 2010003394  (A2)
CAPACITIVE WINDING FOR ELECTRIC MOTORS, TRANSFORMERS, AND SOLENOIDS

The invention relates to a capacitive winding which is made of copper wire, has an inductive reactance of zero, is composed of two parallel conductors (1, 2), and is wound like a coil on the soft magnetic core [8]. Both conductors (1, 2) are electrically connected at the beginning of the coil by means of a capacitor (3) and are also electrically connected to a capacitor (4) at the end of the coil. The first conductor (1) is connected to a pole of an oscillating power generator (5) at the beginning of the coil, while the second conductor (2) is connected to the second pole of the oscillating power generator at the end of the coil. The capacitive winding is arranged in the stator and rotor grooves of an electric motor, and the capacitors (3, 4) are mounted outside the motor structure.; Capacitive current that flows through the windings of an electric motor generates a magnetic field in the gap between the stator and the rotor such that the apparent electric power is converted into effective mechanical power.

VIEV...
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/igor_pavlovic_kuldosin_/