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Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, June 28, 2011, 04:05:30 PM

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neptune

@Pascuser .Here is another way to do it if you do not have an impedance adapter .
First measure the length of wire wound [winded] on your inner coil . Now join a piece of wire to the top end of the coil to make the total length three quarters of a wave length .
Place this wire in a vertical position , or as close as possible . Connect the inner wire of the coaxial cable to the bottom of your coil . Now take a piece of wire one quarter of a wavelength long and connect it to the braid [outer shield ] of the coaxial cable and have it hanging vertically down . . Test for SWR without using the amplifier . Using the rules I gave you in the last message , trim the upper wire for best SWR .You should be able to get an SWR of 1.5 or less . Note that if you get the "antenna" to the correct length , then the length of the coaxial cable is not important .When I was into CB radio years ago we used to make vertical dipoles . We found that at 27 Mhz a quarter wavelength was Eight and a half feet . That is 2.59 metres .This will vary a bit with the thickness of the wire ..
  EDIT. The length of the upper wire may need to be different from the calculated figure because of the inductance of the coil . You will need to experiment .

croco31

hi all,
a remark about SWR question:

if the SWR has the value 2 this means the PSWR is 4, then for a 27MHZ 30W amplifier the power sent to the reactor (and perhaps emitted as an antenna) is only 8W.
If the impedance of the reactor is ca 100ohms, then the RMS voltage is sqrt(8x100)= 28Volts.
We are far from the voltage ( > 100V) shown by TT around the reactor before filling it.

Where is the trick ?

It could be interesting to determine the resonance frequency of the reactor (during filling): a resistor in serie with a low level HF generator and a scope is enough to do that.
Measuring the inductance and capacitance with an adequate multimeter is also good.

My HV generator: i progress
- i will use a sinus oscillator with a variable frequency from 100KHz to 1MHz: i feel some resonance searching with quartz sand could be useful.
- with an audio power amplifier (some TDAxxx with enough bandwith and variable gain) used in push-pull, powered by a 12V accu, i will feed the +5V secondary of an old ferrite flyback transformer
- then i expect some 1KV AC peak at the original 400V primary of the transformer.

i will experiment that next WE.
Another way is to use a brute force switcher using Mosfets to drive the transformer.

Regards.

Pascuser

@Croco31
The voltage between antenna is at max 38,7V rms since P=30W and R=50 ohms for an ideal antenna (max power dissipated). So you can't expect to have hundreds volts there.

The voltage you have on the multimeter with TT nearby the antenna is something else. It is the electric potential radiated and has a link with the emissivity of the antenna. It shows that some electromagnetic field is radiating but doesn't measure the voltage between the poles of the wire that feeds the antenna.

k4zep

Hi all,

Below is a Email from Peter Eichelkraut (eichekraut) to Neptune. Peter gave Ken permission to publish on the list.  Ken didn't know how to do that so asked me to do it for him so here it is. 

After reading the email, it seems we all are running into a wall at a certain point and we simply
are missing basic construction practices or do not have the correct information or materials to make the Reactor/Pyramid work.


Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter Eichelkraut <p.eichelkraut@web.de>
Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:34 AM
Subject: Reactor
To: neptune8@sky.com


Hello Neptune,

i´m sorry for answering so late, but you know, sometimes work don´t goes so easy as you think it have to be.


Now i have to talk about the reactor:

I spent really many, many, many, many time (more than 300 hours till now) to build and activate reactors. And i proof them with the measurement as following: the first electrode from the multimeter at the inner coil of the reactor and the second electrode from the multimeter at the copper tube from the reactor. The multimeter shows me, when the reactor works, a voltage between 8mV up to 180mV (each reactor was different).
When i put my body between the copper tube and the second electrode of the multimeter, the multimeter shows me 100 to 400mV more than without my body between copper tube and electrode. So me and also Thomas think, that the reactors are working.
Now i have 2 good places for paramides in my garden, so i build 2 paramides and put them at these places. Hopefully i took the reactors and completed all two paramides to get this voltage for cut the wires at the capacitor. But there was no voltage, like you can see in the video of Thomas.
O. K. ...no voltage, even if i put all the other reactors inside (i have 7 working reactors).
So i looked the Video from Thomas again and again for see where i have to place the two electrodes from the multimeter. Always the same result: the elektrodes from the multimeter have to be at the minus and the plus at the paramide. Fine...but i diddn´t get any mvolt when i make measurement there.
Now i analize the Video of madsatbg and saw that he put one elektode from his multimeter at the plus or minus (it really doesn´t matter which one you take) from the paramide and the other one he put at the ground from the paramide (the ground from the metal frame, which has no connection with any coil at the inner of the paramide at this time)
And: than you will get the effect like you can see in the video of Thomas. But in my opinion: it could not be the right way, because it´s not like descriped in the video.
Anyway i tried to get sucess with this method, but of course the fan didn´t work.


Now i start to begin thinking about the reactors...better i would say: from where comes the small voltage, and why rise this voltage up when i put my body between.
And after really,really long search i found this two answers:
Its really rediculous, but when you inform (i know that you don´t like this word for this process) the sand very often, the isolation from the inner coil of the reactor begin to go in bad condition. This is because the sand jumps very often between the coil and the copper tube. Small space between the windings begin to let in some sand between the coil and the   INNER  copper tube.
This sand now jumps between this inner tube and the coil and also damages the isolatin of the wire, but you cannot see. Some information processes later, small pieces of the sand are getting into the isolation and makes bridges between the inner copper tube of the reactor and the COPPER of the coil. At these really really small points the isolation (PVC) of the wire and the sand are getting hot and start to burn the isolation. But you can only see it with a mikroscope. Now we have a small bridge between the reactor coil and the inner tube of the reactor, made of sand and charred (burned) PVC. These components with humidity are an alcalic cell. This is the reason why there´s a small voltage. You can make this voltage higher, if you inform more and more.

And the higher voltage with the body between???
Really easy: Put one electrode from your multimeter at a copper tube, the second electrode from your multimeter in the right hand and now with the left hand you touch the copper tube.
Your multimeter will show you something betwenn 50mV up to 300mV. These mv are only the reaction between the skin and the copper.


So what will i say with this:
First: i think all reactors i build till now are wrong
Second: we must find a really good way to inform the reactors and find out how to get good sand and so on and on...



Finally (this is really important for me): at this time it is the time for me to make some days holiday from this paramide-project, because i spent so much time at this project, that i lost really many nights to sleep, but i won´t give up this project. In my opinion there are only some small pieces of the puzzle we need to get. I hope Thomas will give them to us in the next days.



I hope this helps a little bit. I´m sorry that i didn´t sent any pictures with, but i´m really tired so i cannot take pictures now.


with all the best wishes

           Stefan 

tetrahedron

Hi all,
I am working my way through a book i read a few years ago called " The Secret Power of Pyramids" by Bill Schul & Ed Pettit" published in 1975.

I`m not too far into it yet, tho in the book they look at growing plants within the pyramid, and they carry out a number of experiments to suggest the best position is at the apex of the pyramid and not the kings chamber.
They tried different positions the ground level base produced poor results, higher at the kings chamber location, the plants grew steadily and healthily, but at the top of the pyramid resulted in more activity, and rapid growth.

From another source i remember an observation by another pro pyramid scientist that observed the kings chamber had residue on the walls as tho it was flooded with somekind of battery type liquid.

On another note whilst it maybe not practical for building a home made pyramid from the material i am about to suggest, it would be intresting if someone could use granite for the sides as apparently the Egyptians used granite because it has electrical properties

Pilots are advised to not fly directly over pyramids as it been reported to be a disruptive energy shooting upwards from the pyramids that makes the electrical instruments go haywire.