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Pulse motor and timing

Started by joe, April 10, 2005, 05:46:03 PM

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hdbservices

Hello guys,

This guy, Doug Konzen seems to have alot of understanding about pulse motor/generators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpikCPKPiE

nightlife

hdbservices, his motors are not shown operating with a load and he is not showing the amps used and the amps returning.

Another thing I see wrong with his as well as other Bedini motors is that the permanent magnets are not large enough, I when I say large I am referring to the surface area. Another problem I see is with the coils. The cores need to be rectangular and the windings need to be wrapped in the same shape. The surface of the magnets need to be at least 3 times the surface size of the coils core. The more larger the magnets surface area, the better. Then the surface area needs to be shaped to fit the wheel and the same goes for the cores surface.
The closer the coil to the magnet, the better.

Then the coil must be activated to repel the magnet just after the magnets center and then shut off at about half way from the end of the throw making sure that the throw has thru it far enough away from the core so the core doesn't attract the magnet that was thrown. The next magnet will be attracted to the core with the effect pulling to the center of the magnet. It will pass the center but then try to come back. That is why you must activate the coil just after the magnets center is passed to create the throwing affect.

Only the part of the throw that is powered is the energy used and the rest of the throw as well as the action is the energy gained. You will loose energy from the drag of the center and that is why it is very important to have the coils activated at the precise moment the center passes.

The next thing that must be done is to collect the back EMF off from the coil after it is shut off. This will help keep the coil cool as well as it will collect the energy that would other wise be lost. This adds to the efficiency of the motor. The rectifier power that is created as well as the back EFM power, can be rerouted back to the power source.

Just keep these things in mind when building a pulse motor and good luck to all of you.


Ren

while most of your comments are fairly valid nightlife I dont agree with this one.

" Another thing I see wrong with his as well as other Bedini motors is that the permanent magnets are not large enough, I when I say large I am referring to the surface area. Another problem I see is with the coils. The cores need to be rectangular and the windings need to be wrapped in the same shape. The surface of the magnets need to be at least 3 times the surface size of the coils core. The more larger the magnets surface area, the better. Then the surface area needs to be shaped to fit the wheel and the same goes for the cores surface."

The magnets placed on a monopole wheel are there strictly as a timing mechanism. The larger the magnet the longer/stronger the pulse. While some may desire this in their particular configurations it isnt necessary in JB's monopole. Infact I have had better results with smaller magnets as they create a faster switching time. The magnet need only be big enough to trigger the transistor to fire.I cant speak in regards to Kozens work as I am not too familiar with it.

@ Zott. Im happy to offer suggestions if you can show/explain your configuration/schematic. Without it I am unsure of what may be burning up your transistors. It may be as simple as selecting a higher rated transistor, it may not. If you are using the SG circuit I would suggest getting one coil running smoothly and then adding the others.

nightlife

Ren, I am not talking about the switching magnets, I am talking about the magnets on the wheel used in the atracting and or repelling affect of the wheel that makes it turn.

Ren

@ nightlife. In a reed or hall operated/timed device the switching magnets may be different to the attraction/repulsion magnets. In the monopole and other similar configurations there is only one set of magnets and they perform both tasks. I just wanted to clear that up in relation to Bedini devices.