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Standing Waves in Generators

Started by xenomorphlabs, July 24, 2011, 08:47:39 PM

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mondrasek

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 24, 2011, 10:27:49 PM
This method is entirely reactive, you could even call it reactive resonance.
So the comparison to cold current might apply in a way.
As far as i know there is 3 types of radiant energy, electron spin, electro thermal and time density.
Since the power factor is zero there is no energy consumed in the circuit, 100 % reflected.
The actual charge on the dump cap is i believe a consequence of a displacement current trying to recharge the virtual capacitance layer in the dipole created by the cancelling coils. The dump capacitor plates can obviously turn this into real Joules not VARs.

About the math, i unfortunately am not aware of the right equation to calculate the resonance capacitance for out-of-phase inductors.
Since the inductance is technically zero, all know equations would send you to the "sun" hehe

Same conclusions here!

I am very disheartened by every classically trained EE I have tried to explain this to.  They mostly appear unwilling to accept the idea of "reactive current" since that is a no-no in classical power transmition.

But as @bolt has said all along, VARs into a cap becomes usuable Joules.

Pretty neat, huh?

M.

gyulasun

Quote from: mondrasek on July 24, 2011, 10:07:48 PM
Wondering, what do you make of Gyula's comment about "cold current"?  I think it refers to pure reactive current.  I recall something about it not being able to register on a normal ammeter, but should still sight a lamp.

M.

Hi Folks,

I wrote on "cold current" this in Reply #4392 (Muller Dynamo):
"A good observation that once you still measure or normally indicate output current with the usual current meter it must be a conventional current.
Unconventional current (some call it 'cold'  current) is not supposed to be measured or even indicated by normal current meters, the presence of such current could be indicated by an incandescent lamp as other stated."

So I did NOT mean reactive current,  this latter CAN be measured with normal ammeters.  Just try to charge up a 100 or 470uF electrolytic cap via a series current meter from a simple 1.5V AA battery, you will see the (exponentially) diminishing current values till the full charge up state, beyond which the cap's leakage current would flow. The same happens with AC (if your current meter is quick enough to follow the AC frequency), a series of charging and discharging currentflows are repeated at the rate of the AC frequency.
I do not know what constitutes cold current (I mean in case of conventional current the electron flow does it), I simply referred to Floyd Sweet and Bearden's descriptions, where an incandescent lamp "is able" to sense the presence of cold current by giving a very 'whitish' light, while a series normal ammeter cannot show any cold current value...

So please do not mix "cold" and reactive currents.

Gyula

mondrasek

Thank you for the clarification.