Was Bessler for real?

[christo4_99]

Now more than ever I must reiterate to all of those who have ridiculed this noble search , website after website , column after column they have boasted that they " know " that our efforts will be without fruit ! Well just as Bessler warned nearly 300 years ago , you should hold your tongue ! You should patiently await the outcome without becoming hastily opinionated or swayed by false teachings . To opponents : (Wash your hands before you eat but let all ill intent issue from the heart out of the mouth and into the wide world ) . I tell you with all my heart that this subject is far from dead ! So celebrate with me the strength of the human resolve . Celebrate with me that Bessler was not content to let a true wonder and (supposed) impossibility fall to the wayside and be forgotten .

[Rafael Ti]

Of course he was for real... Doing my researches on Bessler I met some suggestions that wheel needs apart from weights also the counterweight and some ratchet mechanisms. We remember that Bessler worked as a watchmaker and I am pretty sure he brought some ideas from cloock mechanisms to his wheel. And what I realized yesterday... using a counterweight on one side in opposition to weights on other side plus ratchet mechanism is a reliable solution, or just one of many. I say many, cause this one will give a pulse movement of the wheel, not exactly as Bessler one.
Also believe that wheels operating on moving weights only can do a work too, but the key is a proper tuning, precision and elimination as many 'dead patchs' for weights as possible. The 'dead patch' is a path the weight goes on not doing any work under force of gravity or doing a very little.
I'll try to ilustrate these ideas soon... if I find any simple program to do it

Raf

P.S.
I am wondering why did Bessler hide his mechanism from the entire world. Perhaps there was no Patent Office at that time?

[johnny874]

Of course he was for real... Doing my researches on Bessler I met some suggestions that wheel needs apart from weights also the counterweight and some ratchet mechanisms. We remember that Bessler worked as a watchmaker and I am pretty sure he brought some ideas from cloock mechanisms to his wheel. And what I realized yesterday... using a counterweight on one side in opposition to weights on other side plus ratchet mechanism is a reliable solution, or just one of many. I say many, cause this one will give a pulse movement of the wheel, not exactly as Bessler one.
Also believe that wheels operating on moving weights only can do a work too, but the key is a proper tuning, precision and elimination as many 'dead patchs' for weights as possible. The 'dead patch' is a path the weight goes on not doing any work under force of gravity or doing a very little.
I'll try to ilustrate these ideas soon... if I find any simple program to do it

Raf

P.S.
I am wondering why did Bessler hide his mechanism from the entire world. Perhaps there was no Patent Office at that time?

  Hi Rafael,
I think one reason why Bessler might have kept his design secret initially was because of his friend. It was about money. But after his demonstrations were not recieved the way he hoped, he chose his writings.

@Christo, while Bessler might have been very religious, I do not think I would go so far as to call him a prophet. To say that machines could make our lives easier was already known.
The British had gone to spinning 10 bobbins of thread. This allowed them to import cotton from India and export thread back to India and sell it cheaper. Money is a strong motivator 

[christo4_99]

It's not that I am saying he was a prophet because of his ability to see the future or something like that , I'm saying that he "saw" the mobile and this he received from God . Don't take the things I say out of context and add your own interpretation please . A prophet can be anyone who sees things that other people can't see . Obviously , in this sense , Bessler , if he was genuine , is the ONLY person to ever realize such a thing as he invented .Half the time all anyone wants to do is argue or correct what someone else says . If you're so damn smart as to assume to correct the things I'm saying then I leave it to you my friend , to solve the mobile and let all these fine people in on the news of it's arrival .

[johnny874]

It's not that I am saying he was a prophet because of his ability to see the future or something like that , I'm saying that he "saw" the mobile and this he received from God . Don't take the things I say out of context and add your own interpretation please . A prophet can be anyone who sees things that other people can't see . Obviously , in this sense , Bessler , if he was genuine , is the ONLY person to ever realize such a thing as he invented .Half the time all anyone wants to do is argue or correct what someone else says . If you're so damn smart as to assume to correct the things I'm saying then I leave it to you my friend , to solve the mobile and let all these fine people in on the news of it's arrival .

>>   If you're so damn smart as to assume to correct the things I'm saying then I leave it to you my friend , to solve the mobile and let all these fine people in on the news of it's arrival .  <<

  Have done it and have been looking for a professional wood worker to build it.

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