Was Bessler for real?

[stivep]

For these having not much to do with their time,
- who are interested with more or less verifiable history
it is also good to know that:
No mechanical system ever was approved by  patent office as self powered in entire history of patents.
Name  of a hero is no important to us.
No practical solution for mechanical systems is ever available in energy generation field.
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However water wheel is mechanical, works and is open for innovations in Patent Office.
Wind turbine is mechanical system having electrical generator and is open for innovations in Patent Office.
Combustion engine is  mechanical.
Hydrogen motor is mechanical
So only systems converting one source of energy into another  works
in any field and that is  the general rule.
Wesley

[dxer_87]

Hello Stivep!

I think any giroscope looped by any gear (teeth or belt) will be best and most powerful solution for nowadays knowledge (COP 10-50).

Giroscopes may be found in toys.

[onepower]

stivep

For these having not much to do with their time,
- who are interested with more or less verifiable history
it is also good to know that:
No mechanical system ever was approved by  patent office as self powered in entire history of patents.
Name  of a hero is no important to us.
No practical solution for mechanical systems is ever available in energy generation field.

Interesting take but as usual you said nothing of value which moves the conversation forward comrade...

I explained Bessler's history then went on to explain why he didn't disclose his technology. I then added some context and a possible solution based on Bessler's own words. Ergo, a system of levers and mass/momentum transfer seems unlikely however a change in the system properties could work.

For example, imagine the consequences of what would happen if we could hide the "weight" of a "mass" in a system?. You see weight is completely dependent on a field of force we call gravity. Where the mass of an object is not dependent on gravity but a property of mass we call inertia. There is no such thing as "weight" in outer space and everything including all the objects, planets and stars are very much weight-less. We cannot put a scale under anything in space because it would always read zero.

Which begs the question, what if we could reproduce the weight-less properties of space down here on Earth?. Well, all bets are off because now any object could have weight or not depending on the circumstances. All we would have to do is place two equal weights on a lever, remove the weight from the mass on one end of the lever and watch the other end fall performing work, easy peasy.

As Bessler and the people who saw the internal mechanism claimed, it's so simple even a child could understand it. Don't you find that strange, it's so simple even a child could understand it and yet you cannot?...

AC

[stivep]

Philosophy in real everyday life
Here is how the logic is applied.
Use this method in real life  it helps a lot to avoid bad decisions and improves understanding.
example:
step 1: compare analyzed text  to other sources of the same.
                 e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Bessler
step 2: original text was chopped into elements ( building blocks) :

1. It's an interesting story which still applies today...
2. Bessler was a genius, scholar, philosopher and a true craftsman
3. He invented//and eventually found a way to harness the force of gravity with a machine.
4. Then he tried to sell his gravity machine and the secret for a rather large sum of money.
This is when the problems started.

step 3: Than try to make one sentence from it.
example: "Besler inventor had problems to sale his gravity machine."

step 4: Now we build our conclusions about the known information.
step 5: All the unknown looks now more appalling, appealing, neutral etc.

Note: _{the only difference or similarity between you and me is scientifically (socially) recognized level
,used to analyze "the unknown" based on "the known."
Analyze anything you want  from God , spirituality, health, science, fiends, family, law and love, morality, sensual and sexual freedom of choice and action.}

Method of Exclusion: when you exclude the cause _{(a reason for an action or condition )
e.g. excluding God changes your  understanding of science, morality, sensual, sexual freedom of choice and action.}
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These 5 points  saves you time and money.
far less mistakes in life,  like:
Why I didn't become a licensed electrician in USA, NY who in average here makes almost for certain, not less than $500k per year.
-knowing that I do not need for that any  formal education at all( high school and 7 years of work in electrical company)

Now think about any young guy who reads just that  last  sentence of mine.
How many of them wants to have not less than half of a million dollars every year.
How this few words changes their life?
Emigration, marriage for Green card,  or worker visa, adaptation, your own business.
90% of an average Russian young interested in electricity, would want that now.
_{Electrical engineer  is required 3 years of work in USA NY electrical company.
These with money can open  their own company tomorrow employing  for only ~7 years a licensed electrician who doesn't want to be in business.( for an average salary 140k/year)
Investment required: to become an electrician in NY : few screwdrivers, pliers,  hand tools= $150}
Wesley

[stivep]

 first take look at the comment right above this one  than read what's below:

stivep
you said nothing of value which moves the conversation forward

I'm real - means better than Chat GPT.
I'm nobody till someone see value in me -  how many  people can say that about themselves?
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"Movement  has a vector that in any direction  always points and  moves forward from its start , and its foreword helps you understand it."
-Try this above sentence in AI it will get lost:
"Hello, this is Bing. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Do you have a question or a topic you want to search? 🤔"

Wesley