Was Bessler for real?

[christo4_99]

It is really sad that so many have chosen to hate on little ol' me . My design and Bessler's are one and the same . I understand every clue the man ever published and mine eyes have seen what you wish yours had. Bessler will be vindicated sirs simply because I say so and you guys will still be sitting here trying to act like someone you're not . if you only knew . I have a suggestion : Why don't you use that brain of yours for something other than a burden on your neck muscles and THINK of something that will rotate ? then you will be as smart as you think you are . So to answer the OPs question . Yes, definitely , Bessler was for real ! I dunno where these guys think the solution will come from when I've been trying to hammer it home for some time now . I can't really blame them though but don't I seem awfully persistent and awfully LOUD ? 

[Dr]

Many people say that because bessler was a watchmaker, that his wheels were kept running via a spring. It is a fact , the wheel at kassle ran for 54 days nonstop. It has been estimated that the wheel weighed about 700 lbs. The spring mechanism would most likely hang below the axle, which was 8 inches thick. This would leave about 5 1/2 ft. of space for this mechanism. The spring would have been like the kind you would find in a pull out tape measure, only wider and thicker,,,,, and a great deal longer. I did some rough estimates, and to keep that wheel turning for 54 days nonstop, that spring would need to be 12 inches wide 3/16of aninchthick and over 300 ft. long. First of all it would not fit and second in 1716 they would not have been able to make it!!

[christo4_99]

Many know the facts and have seen all the clues and read all of the books . Bessler has many believers all over the world . Only I am implying a direct connection to Bessler's work . It stands to reason that if Bessler wanted the world to know his secret then surely someone would come forth in what is now the future to make such claims as I . Whether they would be accepted or not is another matter altogether and actually one of little consequence . i will continue with what I am doing regardless of anyone's objection . What I do expect and am only occasionally getting is encouragement from those who know that sometimes it is want that leads people to greatness and that I, no matter how I'm perceived or received for that matter could possibly be speaking with authority and a knowledge and insight that others simply do not possess . I do not blame you in the least for believing in Bessler . But my challenge sir is for you to get beyond trying to convince people and believe it yourself ,apply your own brilliance to the problems with creating it . As soon as Bessler stepped down off the shoulders of the brilliant men who attempted PM in the past and applied his own brilliant mind,heart and soul to the problem he got his answers ,answers to the same questions you are asking . So carry on.

[John Worton]

This thread caught my eye when I was looking for somewhere to weave-in my contribution and I note the comments it contains. 
I have ‘laid to rest’ once and for all the argument that Bessler was a fraud, and I have proven that he was ‘the real deal’.  It is not true to say that ‘only a running wheel will put to rest the story of Bessler’, nor is it true that ‘a working wheel will not be able to be proved as Bessler’s’, just as, it is untrue to say that his machine rediscovered ‘will not be able to perform any useful work’, and, I can assure you, he never worried once about being beheaded for being untruthful.
A simple drawing would suffice to disprove all of these erroneous claims, this is why Bessler ‘burned or hid all the woodcuts that prove the possibility’ as he says on the front cover of his unpublished manuscript; Further demonstrations regarding the possibility and impossibility of perpetual motion, or Maschinen Tractate by Johann Bessler, edited and published by John Collins (Leamington Spar: Permo Publications, 2007) as we now know it.
I have taken things several stages further than a simple drawing, and, having solved Bessler’s Clues (well enough of them anyway to solve the problem), have made and photographed The Armature: The Essential Element of The Bessler Wheel.
You can see The Bessler Wheel and how it works on my website, the link is; http://factumpoetica.org/

[christo4_99]

JW, I don't mean to insult you but IMO that thing on your site will not run and furthermore I have some clues to Bessler's work that other's don't . I guess with people like JC and AP and now you,people like me who profess the truth and keep the device a secret will get lost in the shuffle . But that's okay .