Was Bessler for real?

[AB Hammer]

Jim

What I was referring to, was in private mail with Pese and it was about fluid and tubes. I never claimed what you have drawn was my idea either, as you are so quick to accuse. Flexible tubes was a suggestion from Pese. The basic concept but not the exact same design as in every little detail, as you have been pushing for a couple of years now. Since you keep bringing me up, I  posted to let you know that I am very familiar with the basics of your wheel.  The problems you have is reaction of weight placement counter acting, and fluid retention to keep from flow back. One of my very first ideas I had was fluid movement as well but it was hard tubes and pistons.

I am not here to fight with you or anybody, so lighten up. Here is my original from Aug. 2007.  Another thing is I am no longer a direct part of Arrache either but am ready to work with, if the need is there.

PS When are you ever going to finish it so you can learn and move on? Talking don't build wheels. It's been 2 years on the same idea.

[johnny874]

Jim

What I was referring to, was in private mail with Pese and it was about fluid and tubes. I never claimed what you have drawn was my idea either, as you are so quick to accuse. Flexible tubes was a suggestion from Pese. The basic concept but not the exact same design as in every little detail, as you have been pushing for a couple of years now. Since you keep bringing me up, I  posted to let you know that I am very familiar with the basics of your wheel.  The problems you have is reaction of weight placement counter acting, and fluid retention to keep from flow back. One of my very first ideas I had was fluid movement as well but it was hard tubes and pistons.

I am not here to fight with you or anybody, so lighten up. Here is my original from Aug. 2007.  Another thing is I am no longer a direct part of Arrache either but am ready to work with, if the need is there.

PS When are you ever going to finish it so you can learn and move on? Talking don't build wheels. It's been 2 years on the same idea.

  Alan,
When you posted that you and Pese had already discussed it, what can I say it sounds like ?
Also, why not call mercury by it's common name ?
And you are right, talking doesn't build wheels, visit Besslerwheel.com where you are a highly respected member. Yet no one is discussing a build. Except for myself, and I was banned for it.
You should remember Alan, if I am not capable of working to earn money to build with, then how can you expect me to build ? I think it is your reluctance to allow me to discuss engineering with other opend minded people that has been the failure.
After all, it is by open discussion that has helped me to learn and better understand how Bessler's wheels might have worked. I can only believe this bothers you because you have not taken the time nor had the interest to learn as myself and others have done.
And if I wanted, I could take the time to find the thread at besslerwheel.com where you discredited this very idea I am working. Haven't you tired of calling me a fraud ? After all, there might be a family in this for me. And if not, don't need it.

                                                                                   Jim

[rlortie]

Oil, water and Mercury cannot be compressed and seeks it own level. Air can be compressed and seeks equalization of density, and yet you believe this will work.  It did not work 300 years ago and it will not work now.

I confirm that ABhammer is no longer affiliated with 'Arrache' and I refute in its behalf as being called 'infamous'... 'Arrache's track record is free of any blemishes and integrity stands tall.

I consider the 'infamous' claim as slander and is legally worthy of a civil tort for deformation of character.  That is unless you can prove otherwise backing up your claim.

Ralph Lortie
CEO 'Arrache'   

[johnny874]

Oil, water and Mercury cannot be compressed and seeks it own level. Air can be compressed and seeks equalization of density, and yet you believe this will work.  It did not work 300 years ago and it will not work now.

I confirm that ABhammer is no longer affiliated with 'Arrache' and I refute in its behalf as being called 'infamous'... 'Arrache's track record is free of any blemishes and integrity stands tall.

I consider the 'infamous' claim as slander and is legally worthy of a civil tort for deformation of character.  That is unless you can prove otherwise backing up your claim.

Ralph Lortie
CEO 'Arrache'   

   Ralph,
Sometimes with your temper and attitude, you and Alan seem so much alike.
What can you sue me for, stating my opinion ? The 1st Amendement gaurantees my right to freedome of speech.
It is not like when you ask Scott Ellis to ban someone who is building for having 3 red dots.
And this because you are asking to to show who donates the most money to his forum.
What does donating money have to do with banning someone who is putting out obvious effort ?
And as you just posted, the idea I am proposing did not work 300 years ago. I disagree with you as engineering supports it rather easily.
If the lever is longer than the pump, then a mass equal to the weight can be displaced for the distance of the pump. Bessler realised this but no one you've been associated with has. That is why in my opinion, your group is infamous. Other wise you would not have bothered with an open source builder as myself. But you have. It can only be because you are afraid that I am right. This would make your efforts worthless or come to naught.
And as a businessman such as AB Hammer is, you like a return on your investment.
It seems if anyone is entitled to a return on their investment, it would be Stefan for giving people the opportunity to discuss ideas in an open format.
Ralph, can I say Hi to Ken ? He's okay   

                                                                             Jim

[overtaker]

Jim,  How fast would you have to pump the water in an wheel turning at 40 - 50 rpms in your design?  I challenge you to set up an experiment and show how long it would take to pump the water in your design.