DIY - Stable Redox Molecules

[citfta]

I have also been trying to do some research about this product and how to produce it.  It seems that a very similar liquid can be made by bubbling HHO gas through a glass of distilled water.  Or some even say your favorite drink, but I'm not too sure I would want to use anything but distilled water because you don't know what might be in the drink that might give a bad reaction.  Is it really necessary to make all 16 of the chemicals that are listed in the patent?  The patent just says that these 16 can be made by adjusting the temp and voltage.  It doesn't say that all 16 are needed for a beneficial effect.  Do we have any biochemists looking at this thread?  Maybe they could help us go in the right direction.  Has anyone here had any experience with the HHO gas bubbling through your drinking water?  I have found several sites on the internet where people are claiming it is beneficial.  But you can post anything on the internet so I am not real sure I believe all that I read.

Carroll

[steeltpu]

I'm with GB on this one.  Aaron claims there was no bait and switch.  His forum is primarily an energy forum and he sends out a message that he is having a conference call and at the end of it he will give you a battery secret.  But he calls every one stupid for assuming the call was about energy.  When some of the best forum members there are saying this was bait and switch he still does not see it.  He is out there on this one.  He screwed up but does he even know it or is he just covering his butt.  The boy may be smart but has a serious ego and it's going to trip him up eventually if he doesn't get a handle on it.  It sounds like he wants to be rich so bad he will do anything to get there.  He doesn't understand his own teachings.

   All MLM take a product that is super cheap to make and mark it up a huge amount as that is what is required in any MLM for all the downlines to make money.  It's saltwater with a dab of electrolysis.  How expensive can that be?  And while they might have a chance at doing a business I think they are going to kill the deal by having the mandatory monthly shipping thing to even get any product.  That's about as money grabbing of a plan as you can get. 

   If some chemist was smart he would start making this same thing and sell it for a quarter of the Asea price and would still make a mint.  Patent you say?  There's always a way around that. 

[SeaMonkey]

This Web Page
has a great deal of information about water,
especially structured or electrically treated
water, and the machines which are available
to make it.

Once we all have a good understanding then
it should be possible to develop the necessary
techniques for making the desired product.

[nvisser]

The  saltwater chlorinator I use in my pool does axactly what this patent tells us to do. It also use a platimum coated mesh anode, use 24V dc and the temperature is regulated as the water pump through the chlorinator (electrolizer) all the time.
A simple electrochemical reaction with salt water produces chlorine gas. That same reaction produces sodium hydroxide (NaOH). That is the stuff I have to clean from the grids once a week. It does not sound so healthy to me.
Does that mean I am swimming in magic water or does it not relate?

[SeaMonkey]

Good questions Vissie.

The pool chlorinator uses a fairly strong
solution of saltwater to produce Chlorine
at the Anode of the electrolyzer.  This
then mixes with the Sodium Hydroxide
which is produced at the Cathode to make
Sodium Hypochlorite (commonly known as
bleach) which is a powerful oxidizer and
disinfectant.

With a slight modification the device could
indeed be used to make "structured water"
since the electrodes are of the proper material.

What we need to discover now is the concentration
of Sodium Chloride (or Potassium Chloride) and/or
other salts in the solution to be electrolyzed and
the Voltage/Current density which produces the
desired product.

Too strong a solution will produce the wrong chemicals
(hypochlorites, chlorates and perchlorates) in too high
a concentration.