PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS

[giantkiller]

That will be wonderful if it can create jobs and if all goes well I'm sure it can create a bunch.   

  Call me worrisome but I just had another thought.  Or more of a question at this point if you can answer it now.  Is there anything in this invention that involves exotic, rare, hard to get, controlled materials or anything that otherwise could be severely limited by the PTB once it hits their radar?  If so maybe you could give a heads up on just that one thing now.  Hopefully there is nothing like that in the invention and even if some things might become scarce at some point they could be made by some of the more skilled individuals so that this could not be stopped by controlling a key ingredient.

I can legally buy black powder. I can legally buy pipe fittings. I put the two together and I become an instant terrorist. The courts won't even take a breath to listen to my explanations.

A prison cell or running for your life is not the best time for realization. Although that is usually when it happens.

[billmehess]

Giant killer - your a scary guy, but thank you for your input.

Also there are no exotic materials in the device of any kind. Like I said it could all be bought off the shelve at any hardware store. I could go into anyones home and find everything I need to build one of these. if the materials were in front of me it maight take me 10 minutes
Got to run out for a couple of hours.
Bill

[Lakes]

No way would I ever post my phone number in a forum, like someone else said, lot of crazy people out there!

But good luck to Bills endeavors!

[e2matrix]

Sounds like this could be scaled up just a little to claim Stefan's overunity prize right here for a little startup capital.  Also there's someone offering a million dollars I believe for a self running device but if I recall that guy may not be too much on the up and up. 

Bill,  thanks for answering my question about the exotic materials.  That is good news.  Scary or not giantkiller is on our side.   You may be familiar with his work as he's been one of the major Steven Mark TPU builders for years.  IMO very smart guy on both electronics and his take on the PTB.  Most of what he's said does not have much effect on most people most of the time BUT when something game changing comes along it can become all to real all too fast.  I'm still thinking though that what you have here (just my wild speculation in my excitement about all this) is not going to be a threat any time in the near future to the PTB because of the relatively low power and cost of scaling it to big power that would be usable for cars and home power.  I hope I'm wrong on that but at least I believe it would insure this gets out to the world and would be very useful in third world countries as well as many low power devices elsewhere.   

   However if it is scalable to high power affordably I would propose an underground network of people to build and distribute it.  Ya' know something like they did with Moonshine in the 1920's. 

   

[JouleSeeker]

I can legally buy black powder. I can legally buy pipe fittings. I put the two together and I become an instant terrorist. The courts won't even take a breath to listen to my explanations.

A prison cell or running for your life is not the best time for realization. Although that is usually when it happens.

Look, no need to get "fear-mongering" here, my friend.

I've been a similar route with my solar-funnel cooker invention 15 years ago.  Even had a company try to "take" it from me, tried to prevent me from making these and selling them myself (although admitting I was the inventor).  I and my family had a few things going for us:

1.  We were selling cheaper than this "threatening" company could
2.  We had applied for a patent (although I admit, not sure that was helping much since the "company" seemed to have a variant or a way around that "protection")
3.  We had already had TV coverage of the fact that I had made and GIVEN FOR FREE a number of these to third-world countries. 

(Result-- the board of directors of this company soon wrote me saying they had "reigned in" the person in their company threatening, and that I could go ahead and build and sell my invention freely.)

So I'm again urging Bill and all to consider using the media as a way to get PUBLIC SUPPORT -- and wish to emphasize this angle --

the Mehess invention will be a benefit to families in Third-world Countries... and you are making and giving a number of these FREE to these people.

The media eat this up -- and its furthermore true that your invention will benefit folks in third-world countries.  Sure, it might also benefit folks in the USA as well... but first get the PUBLIC supporting you, then the gov-mint and others will think twice before trying to suppress you or "take it" from you... 

Some of you still don't believe my experience on this?  OK -- here's a very recent example -- and Bill you and replicators should be able to get into CNN (or like media) likewise.  Please think about it!  and I'd be glad to use my experience to help.  I also was very aware of the Pons/Fleischmann media flop -- they did it WRONG.  Replicators failed; scientists called them "frauds", etc.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-14/tech/solar.light.bulbs_1_bulbs-free-market-solar-light?_s=PM:TECH

...As Katsaros began researching markets in developing countries, he began to realize that his solar light bulb could potentially make a huge impact on the 1.4 billion people around the world who don't have access to an electrical grid.

Many use fuel lamps that burn kerosene, which is costly, dirty and can also be unhealthy.

He dubbed his company Nokero -- short for "No Kerosene" -- and set out to get his bulbs into as many hands a possible in the developing world.

First, Katsaros had to answer a key question that would determine how he would have the strongest impact: should his company be nonprofit, or for-profit?

Katsaros found inspiration from the 2008 book by Paul Polak, "Out of Poverty."

Polak, who has worked in developing nations for 30 years, believes that the charity model of aid used by nonprofit organizations doesn't work -- despite its good intentions.

The best way to help people, according to Polak, is to treat them as consumers. If you can sell to them, he says, you can help them.

"In the beginning I was a nut case and nobody paid attention," Polak says. "The consensus was 30 years ago that this is what caused poverty, and to be involved in business was outrageous and evil."

Today, that is starting to change, he says. But that doesn't mean that nongovernmental organizations have rolled out the red carpet for Polak's ideas.

"Many NGOs say it's making money on the back of the poor, but I love to make money on the back of the poor," Polak says.

"You can feel really good about yourself giving stuff away ... but if you are going to sell things to people, you need to have respect for them because no one is going to buy something if you have contempt for them."

He says market forces will ensure that the right products get into the marketplace and ultimately lead to empowering people in developing countries to be better able to fend for themselves.