PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS

[JouleSeeker]

I think I see where you may be going with this so let me clarify a bit

All batteries require some kind of electrolyte to work , even the so called dry cell battery use an electrolyte in paste form.
Batteries have materials that are consumable
Lazerlight did some great work with a dry cell which had mgnesium strips interacting with a carbon center no electrolytes but the magnesium was consumable
Batteries increase in voltage when connected in series and in current (amperage) when connected in parallel.

My device:
No electrolyte
No Consumables
                                              New Information for all of you:

The individal modules increase in both amperage AND voltage when connected in parallel
There is a strong non moving mechanical component

Thanks for your replies Bill, and for the new information.
One correction, you wrote:

Batteries increase in voltage when connected in series and in current (amperage) when connected in parallel.

  Actually, batteries connected in parallel will have the same voltage (assuming batteries of the same voltage) and therefore the SAME CURRENT (across a resistor, for example) by Ohm's Law, I = V/R.  Perhaps a minor point, but as a retired professor of physics, having taught EM for many years, I sort of jump in on points like that.  Habit, I guess.

The individal modules increase in both amperage AND voltage when connected in parallel
There is a strong non moving mechanical component

I'm very curious just how the "The individal modules increase in both amperage AND voltage when connected in parallel" and  "There is a strong non moving mechanical component"  what this is component?  I guess we'll find out on 31 Aug Wednesday!

Thanks again, Bill.
StevenEJones

PS -- I was "early retired" at age 57 from a major university (full Professor of Physics) ... having a conscientious dedication to the truth regardless of political consequences.  And I very strongly support novel energy approaches; and will do all I can if asked to get around suppression efforts -- with which I'm very familiar from personal experience.

[FatBird]

@ Bolt,

GiantKiller you are 100% correct!  Any time you contract with a government dept or agency you have just given up all of your RIGHTS and converted them to restricted PRIVILEGES.   In effect  you have sold out when you contract to the government for anything. This includes so called health care and unemployment benefits or even to contract with them to hold a driving license. You need to know people the government in the US UK or almost anywhere do NOT represent the people they are corporations and are only interested in supporting their own interests as 100% commercial ventures.

Once you ask for a Patent you have just exchanged your invention and converted it to restricted contract privilege in other words you are now BEGGING to be allowed to use your invention alike a child asking for Candy! Be aware they can and often say NO to OU devices then you are totally 100% screwed as you just contracted with them by patent application and can be denied with the full force of the law under National Security.  This means they are afraid you will damage THEM the corporation as the Government of the United States has nothing to the with the people of the united states.

So you see GK is correct you become a Terrorist and so many people believe wrongly the Patriot Act is for terrorist running around in caves, setting off bombs on buses and hijacking planes but the real terrorist they are afraid is is the people of the united states becoming non compliant and thus a Terrorist by definition is one who disrupts "the system".  There is only one way.... FULL and open disclosure with nothing hidden whatsoever.

The bottom line is this you try to Patent an OU device then kiss your ass good bye it will NEVER see the light of day.

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Very Well Put Bolt.  You are exactly right.

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[billmehess]

Because there are paid trolls here as well as trolls who have a vested interest in keeping the oily polluted status quo.  And as someone else noticed also I'm sure you mean Aug 31st which is Wednesday and the date you originally posted.  Wish I could make it. 

   Bill seeing your last post regarding "New Information for all of you:
The individual modules increase in both amperage AND voltage when connected in parallel There is a strong non moving mechanical component." I have to ask if this has been validated.  I didn't want to bring up the error I saw in your Peltier thread but as was pointed out by many sharp members with anything I know of you can't connect individual components in series or parallel and get a multiplication of power like you were calculating in that thread.  If an individual component puts out .004 watts than 960 of them in series or parallel is going to be less than 4 watts not over 3600 watts as you had posted there.  At least unless you have figured out some way to bypass Ohms law and basic electrical laws.  I'm all for that if you have but I'm truly hoping this is not a calculation error.  I believe you really have something of great interest here so please don't take this in a bad way but I feel obligated to check this data since you have now posted that individual modules increase in both voltage and amperage when in parallel.  I may even be wrong here in assuming this is not possible under normal conditions much less whatever you have come up with but would be interested in any confirmation on these thoughts.

Yes I remember my peliter mistake , this is not the case here. The device absolutly works in the parallel mode. If I take say 4 modules that are putting out 100 mv ( they do not all put out exactly the same amount I am using this to simply) if I put them in series my voltage is around  170mv if I connect them in parallel the voltage is around 380mv.
One of the other devices setting next to it has 6 modules and in parallel they put out around 510 mv
and in series 185 mv ?
Also the current increases as it should. I know this because I can connect the device to a capacitor (I usually use a electrolytic 25 4900 mf for this purpose) and in one hour I can record the voltage in the cap. The voltage is always directly perportional to the number of modules in parallel, which of course is the way it should be.
If this is not strage enough get this. When I take the 6 module group and connect in series to the 4 module group I get an expected increase.
My 6 mod group is putting out around 510 mv and my 4 mod group (again all hooked up in parallel)
is putting out 360  mv in series this raises to around 700 mv. Not quite the 870 mv I would expect.
But at this point since I have wires everywhere I most likely am experiencing  some voltage loss.
It's a mystery
Bill

[Mark69]

Hi Bill,

Want to ad my congrats to you if your device can do what you say...  Please stay the course and show your device, then please share with the world so we can end oil company domination over the masses.  I hope that is your plan.  Staying tuned.....

[JouleSeeker]

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Also the current increases as it should. I know this because I can connect the device to a capacitor (I usually use a electrolytic 25 4900 mf for this purpose) and in one hour I can record the voltage in the cap. The voltage is always directly perportional to the number of modules in parallel, which of course is the way it should be.
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Bill

Bill, I very much appreciate empirical results like this.  I'm fine with looking at this as a "black box" for now; and having some data to pique our interest.

My 6 mod group is putting out around 510 mv and my 4 mod group (again all hooked up in parallel)
is putting out 360  mv in series this raises to around 700 mv.

My question -- as you hook up this latter device to your 4900mF cap (did you mean, 4900 uF?), how LONG (in seconds) does the cap take to go from 0 volts up to, say 0.5V?   From this and the value of the capacitor, one can estimate the power output, which would be very instructive I think.