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Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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MileHigh

Magluvin:

If you brought an external magnet near to the filings as per your image, and tapped the paper again, you would see the field lines change shape a bit.  Although it's not directly related to the Lorentz force, visually you get similar effects.

For the monitor, the two yokes are making use of Lorentz forces to scan the electron beam.  In the clip, the difference between the north pole down and the south pole down is due to the Lorentz force and the cross-product-right-hand-rule stuff.  What colour you actually see on the monitor is due to the moire pattern effects.

The point is this quote from Sunchro1:

QuoteYou're stuck with outdated Newtonian concepts in an area of Quantum Mechanics. The two wires can't create the extra field according to your steam era laws of Physics. The one word is : LORENTZ.

There is no Lorentz force magic.  The Lorentz force is the reason the Earth is protected from high-energy charged particle radiation from the Sun.  All of the particles corkscrew around and end up getting directed towards the poles.

Alvaro:

Good thing that your transistor is surviving.  The second coil and the diode are actually not absorbing the coil energy, it's all going into the transistor.

Gyula:

Thanks for doing the experiment and it was very astute to put both coils in series to guarantee that they have the same current flow.

Farmhand:

Note as the SB coil gets smaller the resonant frequency gets higher.  It may be that the frequency is too high to get reliable results, I'm not sure.  At very high frequencies and factoring in the minuscule capacitance of the coil, attaching the scope probe and it's associated minuscule capacitance and other effects may disturb the setup too much to get a reliable measurement.  On the other hand a non-contact measurement technique using a sniffer coil may work better.  But even that may cause problems.  You might need to be a hard-core analog/RF design engineer to know what to do here.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

I forgot to add that Gyulasun is absolutely right about the pot-magnets and closing the field thru whatever you are trying to lift (or magnetize, or oscillate, or pull or push against.) I have long tried to point out that most of the magnet motor designs I see here are actually wasting half of the "output" of their magnets (of course I am using "output" metaphorically, magnets don't output anything). Half the field is essentially unused. By clever core-piece design you can use all the field.

synchro1

The Rodin Vortex coil, along with my Spiral SBC both project a monopole.

Magluvin

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 20, 2013, 05:50:06 PM
@Gyula:
You are doing a lot to clear up the misconceptions held by certain people about what a "Tesla bifilar" coil is and how it works.


Whoh, not quite yet. Putting the coils in series is not going to let the bifi do as it will with the single filar coil dictating current flow.  ;)

Mags

TinselKoala

There is no such thing as a "monopole" magnet. Your windings and Rodin's windings are just hiding or redirecting one polarity. All magnetic field lines are _closed loops_. That is the meaning of divB=0.  If you have found otherwise, and can prove it, you are in line for a Nobel Prize and Maxwell's Equations will have to be rewritten.