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Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: CRANKYpants on October 08, 2011, 08:55:28 AM
GOOD SCIENCE IS GOOD OBSERVATION AND YOU NEED A 4 CHANNEL SCOPE IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE MOVING PROBES AROUND BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR REFERENCE POINT. (THAT IS WHY I AM BRINGING YOU MY SCOPE TODAY... IF YOU ARE NOT OUT SAILING?)  8)

CHEERS
T

Hi Thane,

it's a nice day today but no wind so no Sailing.

So come on down with your Scope and bring me your Bifilar coil if you can. I have an idea how to test it in a Solid State way (no moving parts).

Thanks for your help

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: gotoluc on October 08, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
Hi Thane,

it's a nice day today but no wind so no Sailing.

So come on down with your Scope and bring me your Bifilar coil if you can. I have an idea how to test it in a Solid State way (no moving parts).

Thanks for your help

Luc

Also, if you have a Signal Generator that can go over 2MHz please bring that over also.

Thanks

Luc

Overunityguide

Hello Guys,

As I had promised, today I should supply you with my input / output cop measurements regarding my MOT 950 Hz Experiment... (I will advice you, hold on to your seat...)

Input power going to the primary coil:
Calculated by I2*R (R primary coil) = 0.1A*0.1A*1.8Ohms = 0.018Watts
(This can be calculated this way, because the primary coil is running purely reactive at 950Hz)

Output power secondary coil going to the LED Light Bulb:
First I have to make a correction, in one of my previous posts, I have said that this value was about: 0.94Watts But Unfortunately after doing exact measurements with my scope on the secondary's connected load I had to conclude that it was actually running on: 36V at 0.0091A going to the LED Light Bulb, which gives us: 36V*0.0091A=0.327Watts going to the LED Light Bulb. (with the U and I running in phase)

At the end this will give us a (theoretical) cop of: 0.327/0.018 = 18

But I have to say, for now it only works on small loads... I also have tried connecting a 40Watts/240V rated incandescent light as a load with running the primary on higher (more dangerous voltage levels), and there no Lenz Delay was happening at higher power values... But for now it is a beginning of something new and unexplored...

And further I have to mention, that of course in the MOT experiment my frequency drive controller is consuming a whopping 17.5 Watts only to run Idle. So when you compare this to the 0.327Watts at the output, I must agree that in this way there is no overunity yet... But of course my mostly inefficient frequency drive controller can be replaced with much better and efficient (at lower power ratings) Mosfet H bridge controllers. And further in the video you saw that when comparing the loaded state (18.5 Watts) compared to the primary coil disconnected state (17.5 Watts) Will give you a 1 Watt difference in required input power, which is of course also bigger than the 0.327 Watts output. But this has to do with the primary running purely reactive, for which there is in my MOT experiment no power factor correcting capacitor connected to my primary coil, which can be done in higher efficient replications of my MOT experiment also.

So for now to conclude in short, my MOT experiment is showing that some interesting effects can take place in MOT like transformers running at a higher frequency. But for now I do think that a lot of experimenting (read: try to run on higher power values) needs to be done.

My Related MOT Experiment can be found on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3-x3JJDA4

And at gotoluc I would like to say: Good Work Dude...

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

CRANKYpants

Quote from: Overunityguide on October 08, 2011, 11:13:56 AM
But I have to say, for now it only works on small loads... I also have tried connecting a 40Watts/240V rated incandescent light as a load with running the primary on higher (more dangerous voltage levels), and there no Lenz Delay was happening at higher power values...

WHAT IS THE RESISTANCE OF THAT LARGER INCANDESCENT BULB THAT MAY BE AFFECTING YOUR LENZ DELAY WHICH WOULD REQUIRED A HIGHER FREQUENCY TO COMPENSATE WHICH YOU CAN'T DO WITH YOUR FREQUENCY DRIVE CONTROLLER BUT YOU CAN DO IF YOU USE YOUR GENERATOR AS YOUR INPUT TO YOUR MOT...

CHEERS
T

Overunityguide

Quote from: CRANKYpants on October 08, 2011, 12:21:40 PM
WHAT IS THE RESISTANCE OF THAT LARGER INCANDESCENT BULB THAT MAY BE AFFECTING YOUR LENZ DELAY WHICH WOULD REQUIRED A HIGHER FREQUENCY TO COMPENSATE WHICH YOU CAN'T DO WITH YOUR FREQUENCY DRIVE CONTROLLER BUT YOU CAN DO IF YOU USE YOUR GENERATOR AS YOUR INPUT TO YOUR MOT...

CHEERS
T

I have just measured it and (cold) it is about: 96 Ohms. But when we do the math... we get: R=U2/P = (240V*240V)/40Watts = 1440 Ohms (hot)

So indeed this can be way to high for my 950Hz which I am Applying...
But unfortunately, 950 Hz is the upper Limit of my Frequency Drive Controller. So for higher frequencies we do need to get our own H Bridge / microcontroller circuitry. So gotoluc is on the right way by now.

My Related MOT Experiment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3-x3JJDA4

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide