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Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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Farmhand

Quote from: Magluvin on April 20, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
Oh. So he is going to do the individual tests next?


Mags

Why ? Can you see a reason ? I'm open minded.

Synchro, Sorry for the dig at you, I meant no harm. My apologies.

I watched the "south pole monopole" video, seems he increases the power just enough to detect the south pole.
Maybe the south pole is more concentrated or something, if he increases the power more it might show detectable levels for the north pole.
Imagine a permanent magnet with some length, in the shape of a cone, with the south pole as the tip and the north pole as the big round base.
I'm seeing a concentration of field lines at the tip of the cone. Maybe. Dunno. must be an explanation.

Cheers

Farmhand

Quote from: MileHigh on April 20, 2013, 06:57:32 PM
Farmhand:

With the coils in series they don't have to have the same resistance.  That's the point for putting them in series, to negate any requirement to do precise current flow measurements.

Magluvin:

Of course it actually would be easy to do do separate tests.  All that you need is a multimeter set to read current and preferably a variable-voltage power supply.

Putting them in parallel is no good.   By the same token, their resistances are probably so close in value that putting them in parallel would probably work and show the same field strength.  The point is that you should be aware that you don't want to do this.

MileHigh

I realize that, I was addressing what I assumed Mag's concern was, that there was some restriction on the bifilar coil from being in series.

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MileHigh

Synchro1:

QuoteIn fairness as a replicator, standards of conformance are called for. The coils are close enough to one another to cause a horseshoe effect. This constitutes a serious departure from the original experiment.

Don't be surprised if the tests were done with one bolt being tested and the other bolt out of the way and vice-versa.  The two bolts were then placed together for the picture.  Even like this, note there is no "horseshoe effect" visible in the picture at all.

You are trying to find reasons to invalidate the experiment but it's not going to happen.  I am assuming that you never did this experiment yourself.  I asked you and you intentionally ignored the question.  Like I said, don't trust everything you see on the Internet.

MileHigh

Magluvin

Quote from Tesla Builder...

"The same amount of voltage, from the same battery, produces twice as much energy in the bifilar wound coil as in the single wound coil." 

Doesnt say anything about free energy

The page does not say that the current remains the same, only that the same voltage is used. And if he implies that there is more energy in the bifi, then he is not saying that the current is the same either.

So putting the 2 in series deprives the bifi from the possibility of taking on more current initially than the single fi coil because the single fi is in the way.

So do you guys believe that putting the 2 coils in series is definitive proof that the bifi cannot produce a stronger mag field using the same voltage input individually?

Mags

Farmhand

Quote from: Magluvin on April 20, 2013, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from Tesla Builder...

"The same amount of voltage, from the same battery, produces twice as much energy in the bifilar wound coil as in the single wound coil." 

Doesnt say anything about free energy

The page does not say that the current remains the same, only that the same voltage is used. And if he implies that there is more energy in the bifi, then he is not saying that the current is the same either.

So putting the 2 in series deprives the bifi from the possibility of taking on more current initially than the single fi coil because the single fi is in the way.

So do you guys believe that putting the 2 coils in series is definitive proof that the bifi cannot produce a stronger mag field using the same voltage input individually?

Mags

Do his coils actually have the same length of wire in them ? If the DC resistances are different he either has more wire on one or a different gauge wire on one.
If the coils have both exactly the same DC resistance then the same DC current will flow for the same applied voltage, then the two could be tested separate and
the result would be much the same as Gyulasun achieved. If the DC resistances were the same and the applied DC voltage is the same the current will be the same
then a comparison can be made. No matter in series or separate.

So yes I do.

Cheers

P.S. Total turns on the bifilar should equal total turns on the single winding coil as well.

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