magnetic motor (with electromagnets) idea

[Tito L. Oracion]

IT IS EASIER FOR A BLIND PERSON TO BE SAVE THAN TO WAKE AN ALREADY WAKE PERSON 

IF WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE HELP FOR SOMEONE, WHY NOT? THAN DISCOURAGEMENT   

IT IS REALLY EASY TO SEE THE LIGHT IF YOU ARE BLIND THAN ANYONE CAN SEE LITERALLY BUT ACTUALLY BLIND 

OH BOY WHAT AN APE ENGLISH      LOL

[godsdog]

hmm, onthecuttingedge of blind judgements from a man looking no further than his own nose,
why dont you keep your personal feelings of faith out of this, and comment on the issue at hand,
or are you too paranoid i might convert, lol.

throwing a ball up stairs takes energy, so unless your ball can exert more than on its bounce back up than you throwing it, your basis of argument is petty.

neway
im actually giving up on that motor for the moment and working on something else, same principle, but designed around a simple light chaser, with a speed dial. ill replace the lights with electromagnets, so the fixed magnets will forever be chasing the +ve electromagnet, no picture this time though, not sure if website will have space, lol

[vineet_kiran]

@ godsdog         
         
         
That is a good idea but I think that the problem  is with arrangement  of magnets.     When you arrange the magnets
radially,   the direction of force of repulsion will be towards  center  and a very a small component  of this force   
acts tangentially  on the rotating disc.    Hence you won't get  desired output  in the form of torque.         
         
Instead you can arrange things  like  piston and fly wheel as in the case of IC engine.         
         
Fix your electromagnet  to a platform.    Place the permanent magnet  positioned with  some sort of guide bars    
in line with electromagnet.   Connect the other end of the magnet to a flywheel using a piston rod and crank shaft.  (same as piston - flywheel arrangement in IC engine).     When  moving permanent magnet comes very close to ectromagnet it should trigger the switch of  electromagnet converting it into repelling magnet. 
Since both magnets are in line, the permanent  magnet  experiences full force  of repelling electromagnet.         
         
In this case you will have double advantage  because as long as permanent magnet is moving  towards  electromagnet,
it will be attracted towards  the magnetic material of the core,   when it comes very close to the  core  it will be suddenly
repelled.   This sudden change from attraction to repulsion will cause the permanent  magnet to move back with double force  (ie., -X to +X).   
Also,  you will not have the disadvantage of back emf  as in the case of DC motor.         
         
Your input  is energy required  to magnetise one core whereas  your output is proportional to  H1 * H2/ d(square)  which
takes into consideration strengths of both  magnets.   Hence if properly designed,   you should have a OU  device!         
         
Best of luck,         
         
Regards         
         
Vineet.K.         

[godsdog]

Hey thanks Vineet

thats a great idea, that would introduce a bit of resistance with the pistons though,
but very much worth trying cheers

Have a good one mate,

godsdog

[godsdog]

hey vineet
i searched google for electomagnetic internal combustion motor,
found this
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=hybrid-help-can-bill-gates-make-the-2009-04-15
been patented,
cant find anything on youtube, but theres an interesting comment below from a russian guy about a magazine, aparrently its been an idea for 40 odd years,
but ya know what, im try it anyway, till i find confirmed that it doesnt work, patented pfft, black market mate