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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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Quote from: jbignes5 on February 23, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcJGn4vGM&feature=related


lasersaber has done it already and should be comming out with a good how to to make the cell. He is of the same position that just the differential between the two metals is enough to the battery. Copper foil and magnesium in oil! the perfect capacitor and cell because of the metals we use. Once you get a flow of potential then the current will follow. Stabilizing the flow of potential is the problem here. But that is also a differ3ent approach as well. No water and no oxygen at all... Not even electrolysis can happen.... Hmmmm...


Do you remember about electrolytic caps recharging? Well now we know what was going on. The same metals were used in an electrolytic cap and that could be the reason they were so small of a recharge. Plus oil drastically increases the short tolerances of the cell per Tesla.

On the questions about water you want to get the water to have what it needs to hold the crystals together anything else will be squeezed out of the crystal by the crystal building process. Crystalline water has the bare essentials of oxygen. If you watch the video again about the water you showed you will see how this works. The boundry between oxidized water and non oxidized water is very clear. That is how the crystals grow and build. That layer where the crystalline water stops and the bulk water is should tell you all about the crystals abilities to build. Bulk water has impurities like the stuff the crystals matter is made out of. As soon as it settles and bonds the next layer of crystalline water forms and yet another layer is made. This happens all the time. Watch the video again...


Oh yea, the captret would charge up all by itself. I guess its time to make a dissimilar metal Captret or capacitor. With the glue cell i've seen it act like a capacitor when put in series with a battery.

ibpointless2

Quote from: b_rads on February 23, 2012, 12:23:29 PM

Ib:
I have not explained to anyone yet why I am looking at different materials to build a solid electrolyte, so it is now time to lay out what I am trying to achieve.

Last year in an exchanging PM's with "MIKROVOLT" I promised that I would not post any results of my experiments on his thread and I intend to keep that promise to him.  I hope you guys do not mind my posting this information here.

Last summer I stumbled onto something that I thought was pretty cool.  When trying to replicate a different type battery, I found out that I could consume the electrolyte without harming the metal electrodes.  Think galvanizing, Zinc has a lower Electronegitivity than the metals it is trying to protect.  It is called a sacrificial coating.  I have found that potassium and calcium has a lower electronegitivity than magnesium.  Mixing either of those two materials with plain white glue and placed between the copper and magnesium causes the glue mix to be consumed.  The glue mix acts as a sacrificial coating to the Mg.  The problem is replacing the mix after it has been consumed since it was glued to the metals and the resistance is pretty high in the cell.  If the boiplastic works, replacing the electrolyte should be very simple.  Working on the resistance is another thing.

Thanks to this group for letting me get this on record.

Brad


Oh my, this is great news. I think I remember you posting something like this before on EF but didn't hear much about it after that. having the electrolyte being consumed is great news, any more info on it?  :)  Thanks!

jbignes5



Here is a nice explanation of the problem of cathodic corrosion: http://www.cathodicprotection101.com/


"The free electrons travel through the metal path to the less active sites where the following reaction takes place: (oxygen gas converted to oxygen ion - by combining with the four free electrons - which combines with water to form hydroxyl ions)


ibpointless2

Anyone else notice that magnesium corrodes to two different colors? one color is white which is magnesium-oxide but the other color is black and I don't what it is.

triffid

I have been butting my head today against why my milliamps and millvolts equation doesnt give me the true milliwatts so I can divide by 1000 to get the true watts??? I can do the volts x amps equation all day and come out with the answers in watts(correct answer)but when I do it with the millivolts and milliamps to get milliwatts.The answers do not match.I took a year of physics back in college in 1971-1972.Learned about units and converting to units and back again.So its still a mystery to me at this point.


[size=78%]In the vitamin cells the magnesium corrodes to a brown color.Not white or black.So Im coming up with a different type of corrosion.[/size]