Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[ibpointless2]

Hey all!
Good things are afoot!! I have tested a bunch of cells today and started taking measurements. That is to say I've taken measurements on more than half of the cells I have made (which is quite a few!). (EDIT:Writing in a journal that is heh heh...)

I have something of a discovery to post here which I think is pretty significant:
While building some cells I decided to make a cell with one anode (1/4" aluminum rod) in the center and TWO cathodes (carbon tubes) in the same electrolyte mix.
The mix at this point is mostly irrelevant. What I think is worth notice is that when I hook up the anode to the black test lead, and then hook the red test lead to one of the cathodes, I get about 0.64v which drops steadily, over the course of a couple minutes, to about 0.41v.
Not exciting until I unhook that red test lead and hook it IMMEDIATELY to the other cathode and see 0.64v, the same reading I saw on the FIRST cathode when I first hooked it up!!! No waiting for recharge... So I hook the two cathodes together just now and it tests like just one cathode!!! The same 0.64v and sinking... Those readings are from a mix that wasn't very successful as far as voltage goes but the point of the test needs to be re-proven.

Help me out guys!!!!

Does this mean we can keep adding cathodes (or anodes???) until we run out of room in the electrolyte? Are you kidding me!?!
If this is the case we can use an anode 'case' full of cathodes!!
I have to go build some test cells to see what is up...
Easy thing to test right? Let me know what you find please!

Happy experimenting,
PC

This is very interesting!


So when the first set dropped down in voltage you switched to the other carbon rod and got the same voltage you did from the start? What did you do after that go back to the first carbon rod and got the same voltage? This is a very interesting idea here 

[PhiChaser]

@ IB: When I returned to the original 'discharged' rod is was low like you would expect it to be. I need to make a few cells with a better mix and take more measurements.
(EDIT: It looks like the voltage rises/falls independently)
You can try it yourself by adding another strip of metal to one of your cells easy enough.
If it works with two, why wouldn't it work with twenty? Something to find out for sure!! Funny thing is it doesn't look like you can add the voltages together but maybe the current can be increased somehow this way? Current runs opposite of voltage so... ?
Yeah, I'm gonna try to build some multi-tap cells tonight (I hope, RL is busy!). I will use a better mix though... I do have to get more aluminum rod if I'm gonna use the same materials; It holds up better than cut up tea candle trays or aluminum wire for long term, however it does cost a bit more... Might use wire since I'm broke ATM heh heh... Still need to finish taking readings on a dozen cells...

Something that occured to me last night: Two voltages from one source means that these cells can be oscillators!!! Right?!? Wow... Amazing potential (no pun intended!)!!

Happy experimenting,
PC

[jbignes5]

Yes I discovered that as well. That is what led me to the all encompassing "case" electrode and multiple anodes. Dangit you stole my thunder rofl.... It also conforms to Bedini's findings about the star shaped electrode. Each point picks up a higher charge then the center of the start electrode. This conforms to the static rules of higher potentials following the highest peeks of the shape. Bends and sharp points also conform to this and is probably another reason stones are selective on the voltage you have seen IB. Well thats part of it. I think it is inclusions you can't see that is the reason for such high voltages paired with all the other reasons.


So anyways yes I have found that multiple center electrodes does in fact raise the cells output. But I also found that it destabilizes the out put as well. It doesn't last as long as a single electrode in the center.


The point I was making was why not make the cell like an electrolytic cap with two different metals. The spacer which should be a very porous material like felt or cloth can be used for the electrolyte and the crystal matrix/dielectric in the cell.

I started to think about what Teslas was trying to say to us about capacitors. Most caps work on the principle of electrostatics. Since Tesla worked with the earlier versions of capacitors, they were better suited for electrostatics (leyden jar), it dawned on me that if we kept the voltage from feeding back to the source then we could make a quasi electrostatic gun of a sort. By putting a diode(led) after the cell it will not feed back to the cell and cause electrolysis in the cell. So it would charge up and discharge into the load automatically via the diode we add. Now all we need to do is charge a cap after the load and use that to fire into an inductive coupling to give the voltage some punch or amps.

Tesla said that once he filled a cap he could take millions of horse power out of the cap. Even if we are able to get 50 horse power that would be much higher then we are dealing with now. I suggest if we are to do that that we use the same method that Tesla did and use the disruptive discharge method that is fired into the bifilar primary of a transformer and convert down the high voltage into a low voltage high current result.

I showed a while back the ability to use coils and cores to make a quasi transistor that they call a magnetic amplifier. This would get rid of the limitations we have when using silicon and allows us to fine tune the mag amp the way we want instead of being tied to the locked in variables of silicon.

[PhiChaser]

@ Jbignes5: Heh heh, sorry about that thunder... I will try a 'star' shape at some point... More tests, more time!! Ack! Not enough time these days... Science is FUN!!
PC

[jbignes5]

I was joking lol...


But I am not joking about the other points. Lets look at something else. Don't pay attention to the other stuff in this patent but look at how this guy describes the medium of space. I think this is very close to the actual medium we are in and how that medium effects the objects that reside in that medium:


http://www.google.com/patents?id=Jf-TAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA10&dq=electrostatic+laws&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hTFST-GCLebj0QGy_7DwDQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=electrostatic%20laws&f=false

Here is another patent done using electrostatics to communicate under water!

http://www.google.com/patents?id=YYVMAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=electrostatic+laws&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fTZST_PANeTg0QGEqYCGBw&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBDgU#v=onepage&q=electrostatic%20laws&f=false

And this one shows how we can change water to suit our needs. Or any liquid or compound there of.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=LC6pAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA7&dq=electrostatic+laws&hl=en&sa=X&ei=czlST8ntCMPe0QHg--XmDQ&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBTgy#v=onepage&q=electrostatic%20laws&f=false

Wow someone patented my theory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sweet!

http://www.google.com/patents?id=cQSNAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=electrostatic+laws&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9jxST8S-DO3J0AH-6Yi5DQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAzhQ#v=onepage&q=electrostatic%20laws&f=false