Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[PhiChaser]

  Ib2 and All:
  You can't light the led, with no current.  The capacitor will charge up to the same voltage and current that the cells have, and will discharge in one second, it will not light the led like you think.  This is nothing new here, that many have not tried before, and as John B has mentioned,  you need current... 
   I know that as usual you and others here will not believe me, or even what John has mentioned many times, about current being needed, but you'll see it for yourselves. 
  How many years and different low current cells will it take before you all realize this?
 
                                                                                                      NickZ

@ NickZ:
Well Nick, thanks for the positive comments! I'm sure you've tried hundreds of cells yourself and know it is impossible to do anything with them except light one LED at a time. No doubt you have other devices you have created that generate little voltages and microcurrents that are totally useless... We aren't trying to reinvent the wheel here, we are trying to discover NEW wheels... Do you think the first battery ever made was a long-term success with stellar current? NOT everything we are doing here has 'been done before'...
So Nick, why don't you go tell some other group (preferrably political) that they are wasting their time. Your posts aren't helpful here to any of us, they are a waste of YOUR time (and mine...I'd hate to speak for anyone else here...).

Happy happy happy experimenting with our little voltage micro current cells guys!!
PC

[ibpointless2]

Triffid and Phi Don't let NickZ get to you.


@NickZ, First you insult John Bedini over at Heretical builders but now you're starting to sound like him. Lets just say I worry about you NickZ.
NickZ if you have nothing nice to post over here in this thread than take it somewhere else, like Phi said you're wasting your time, I have more important things to worry about than your negative feed back. Peace.

[NickZ]

    Well Guys: You are right just keep right on going, without me. I won't bother you again with my suggestions, as YOU ALL know better.
    I have not insulted anyone, and it is my opinion of what is happening,  I have run out of patients. You think that you are right,  about making more of these no current cells, if you haven't noticed yet,  they don't work...
   Ib:  Don't worry about me.  Both John and I have mentioned the same thing to you repeatedly.  I have given many positive post but no one is listening, including you. 
   
                       NickZ

[triffid]

All too often things end with people shouting at each other.I found something else   http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-Thermopile-from-some-Copper-wire-and-Paper-/step3/Build-a-Thermopile/    Using copper wire and paperclips.The lesson here is that junk can work.I had a mother who said no to me having a lab when I was a teenager.I had collected bits and pieces of stuff to start one for three years.When I finally thought I was ready to put it together she said NONONONONO.I said why not.She said because I said so.I was very upset because I had a yes three years before and I spent time collecting and learning more science.So I never had a lab at her house.After that I went off to college and never lived with her under her roof.HER ROOF HER RULES.She died in 1994.The house she lived in and refused to let me have a small lab there got torn down and taken to the landfill.triffid

[triffid]

The thermopile I posted a link to can generate a whopping 0.012 volts!The crystal cells can do far better when it comes to volts.But thermocouples can generate hundeds of amps.I saw one one time generate enough current to lift a 10 kilogram weight.A bunsen burner flame was on one junction and room temp air on the other junction.The coil was one turn of metal strip around what passed for an electromagnet.[/font][/size]
It was in a physics lab in college.A thermocouple that was an electromagnet..I am trying to blend some aspects of a thermocouple with these crystal cells.I cant solder magnesium to copper.Not without it burning up in flames.triffid