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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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jbignes5

Quote from: PhiChaser on March 13, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
I forgot to mention another interesting thing: My 'cube' cells are basically hard electrolyte with electrodes sticking out of the top. I can touch the electrolyte together directly! Think about this a bit and let me know what your thoughts are... I will do more experimenting on that aspect of my 'cells' later...
Also, I learned today that two (or more) cells connected are a 'battery'...
(EDIT: Okay, I RE-learned that... heh.)
PC

Added later in the evening: Looks like the amperage leveled off at around 54uA (0.000054A). That number looks tiny with all those zeros doesn't it? At least I can use the 0-100uA meter instead of chasing down something REALLY small... ;)
I will leave the meter hooked up and see what it reads tomorrow morning. Cya!


Just remember a small meter like that has a small coil of wire running the meter. They call them passive but well nothing really is passive in that sense. It will consume a tiny portion of the current you are seeing.


Here is some thing that I thought would help to understand what we are trying to do:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaotropic_agent


"Chaotropic compounds, and chaotropic salts that dissociate in solution exert chaotropic effects via different mechanisms. Whereas compounds, such as ethanol, interfere with non-covalent intramolecular forces as outlined above; salts can have chaotropic properties, by shielding charges and preventing the stabilization of salt bridges. Hydrogen bonding is stronger in non-polar media, so salts, which increase the chemical polarity solvent, can also destabilize hydrogen bonding. Mechanistically this is because there are insufficient water molecules to effectively solvate the ions. This can result in ion-dipole interactions between the salts and hydrogen bonding species which are more favorable than normal hydrogen bonds."

Another nice look at oxidation both wet and dry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_oxidation

PhiChaser

Readings on the cells I left hooked up overnight are at a bit over 25uA. Lost quite a bit of current there. I will leave it for part of the day and see if it continues to fall. After that I will see what the voltage is like. :)
PC

triffid

I took volt readings again of my two electrodes in dry epsom salts I got up to .008 volts today.The pencil lead is the positive electrode and the magnesium strip is the negative electrode.I also put a small capacitor into the dry epsom salts to see it it will charge up by induction alone.It looks like a man buried in the sand with only his legs sticking out.Its in a small can(maybe aluminum?).I'll come back to it later and see if theres any voltage.I did have to short this capacitor as it still had a charge leftover from days ago.triffid




This capacitor has a rating of 16 volts.So if it comes out with a voltage over 10 volts.Then It will be a success.

triffid

Its been half an hour since I placed the capacitor in the dry epsom salts and I had a voltage of .003 volts that I read from the capacitor.


If the voltage continues to climb then I believe we have a major breakthrough?




I am sure I drained the capacitor to zero before I stuck it in the dry epsom salts.


I will continue to take more readings today.triffid

triffid

I tested the capacitor for voltage again and only got .004 volts.Even if it was zero and went to .004 volts by induction only.Its charging up way too slow.I would have to say Im not sure.That anything was happening.I do not have another capacitor to test anyway.So this is on the back burner for now.triffid