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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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PhiChaser

I ended up using the remaining wax with about 1/2 a cup of epsom (half powdered, half raw crystals) and heated the mix on the stove for about an hour. Epsom doesn't want to melt in hot wax... Yeah.
I still managed some meager voltages though. The 'wax' cell is cool now and cranking out a big 0.14v. Yeah, it was over 0.5v earlier today...
The epsom moved away from the electrodes in the still-melted wax when I put them in there, a decent camera could have captured this probably... Around the carbon (and Al only not as much) looks 'cleaner' with little bubbles, like the salt was trying to keep it's distance. Yeah, wax... Fun stuff...
So I have those two cells first data set and it looks like the one with the wax coating is actually losing it's voltage faster than the uncoated one. Not expected, but I will continue my measurements through tomorrow and post some actual numbers. This test will be repeated on another 'pair' of cells, one covered in wax, one uncovered, again... That will leave me with one uncharged 'control' from the same batch of 8 cells...
One test with a single wax covered cell is merely early datum, eh? The beat goes on...

Happy experimenting,
PC

P.S. All this talk about JTs, I need to build a few of those... ;)

triffid

If your wax covered cells are losing power.That could mean water from the air is being kept out?My cells would dissolve in water but I don't think yours would.An interesting experiment to try sometime if you get the notion.triffid


triffid

I learned about "stump out" being sold at home depot.its sodium metabisulfate.I will double check on that.triffid


Sorry close but no cigar.Here is its name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_metabisulfite


its also used in gold refining.

triffid

Concentrated sodium metabisulfite can be used to remove tree stumps. Some brands contain 98% sodium metabisulfite, and cause degradation of lignin in the stumps, facilitating removal.[10]

PhiChaser

Quote from: triffid on April 15, 2012, 08:04:48 PM
If your wax covered cells are losing power.That could mean water from the air is being kept out?My cells would dissolve in water but I don't think yours would.An interesting experiment to try sometime if you get the notion.triffid

Still a lot of testing to be done but it is possible. I think the humidity thing is very much an issue with getting consistant results though. Early readings tell me that the voltage loss is similar with wax or no wax, but good statistics need lots of numbers. I have been busy today but managed to take readings about every two hours. Another couple days and I will have something to post. And more tests to do of course, heh heh...
It occurred to me earlier that I didn't get any readings on my 'ratio' tray so I will do that in a bit. It has been a 'spring cleaning' sort of weekend... Last time I looked every cell that wasn't charged read 0.64-0.67v when I just touched the tops of the electrodes with the vom leads. As far as the charged cells go, I guess I will find out soon enough if any kept any charge from two (?) days ago.

Hope everyone had a good weekend,
PC