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Overunity Machines Forum



another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.

Started by Rosemary Ainslie, November 08, 2011, 09:15:50 PM

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Magluvin

Here is the whip in question...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV7CO8No-CE

One of many copies that were made. The original has been taken down, by Alsetalokin

WAS IT A FAKE!!!!!!!    freak

Mags

Magluvin

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=whipmag&oq=whipmag&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=764l1756l0l2063l5l4l0l0l0l0l441l797l0.1.1.0.1l3l0

Thereare 125 vids left on YT that contain the word Whipmag  Im in there.

YT is cleaning house lately, of old no longer used accts.  There used to be many many  more.

But there are many examples of people trying to get the effect that Alsetalokin/Tinselkoala had shown in that vid in that search above.

Mad Prof made personally engraved setups for several people at Fizzx.org to hopefully speed up the proccess of getting the thing to work. Money money money time time time wasted wasted wasted.  Because of you TK   

So why should anyone believe what you say or show anymore?  If that circuit you wanted me to go back and look at was so well done and no trickery, why should I believe you? HUH Whipper?  :o

I remember one answer he gave about it once, you said it was buried in the ground under snow. Couldnt dig it out till summer.  Ahh. I see. ;)    Great answer. Bravo.


Mags

Magluvin

Here is what TK had in his vid. On the left is what Roses circuit shows as the inductor, and the leds in line with the inductor.

In TK's table top setup, the 2 circuits on the right are his replication of the use for the inductor and the leds.  A transformer with one led across the primary and one across the secondary.  I show 2 of his circuits, with the sec diode in the opposite direction, as I cannot tell from the vid.
Can anyone here say the either of that 2 circuits on the right are representative of Roses circuit on the left? Anyone?  ;D

Yet TK stands by it.  In your face.

Mags

MileHigh

Magluvin,

I am going to step in and defend TK.  He made a mistake but he redeemed himself.  He busted Mylow.  Nobody could figure it out and he did.  He deserves a lot of credit for that and he deserves forgiveness.  So that whole chapter is closed.  He is also a good decent guy with good values and he tries to help people.

Nonetheless, it was still an interesting social experiment.  It illustrates how many unscrupulous people can prey on gullible free energy believers and how much the believers are willing to undergo "suspension of belief" (in common sense) and go crazy replicating and fantasizing.

The lesson was there to be learned, but the reality is that nothing has changed.

For me personally, I didn't believe in the Whipmag for one second.  Same thing for Steorn, and for Mylow and for Romero, and also for your attempted replication of a faked one magnet no bearing pulse motor.

So it's time to move on with respect to your posting.  It's water under the bridge and TK is a good guy and he redeemed himself.  End of story.

You yourself should stop the bad boy character, it's too much.  Calling TK a "freak," saying "Dumped took a dump on me," and so on.  You are also in a strange position relative to your last posting.  You are giving TK a hard time for something that's now ancient history, yet at the same time you are "in bed" with Romero on your other thread.

TK's replication of Rosemary's circuit, although not an exact replication, showed how easily MOSFETs can go into spontaneous oscillation.  Think of a microphone and a public address system.  It's just feedback, in one case you hear the high-pitched whine from the speakers, and in the other case you see the high-frequency oscillation on your scope.  In both cases you have a sensitive input and an amplified output.

One way or another Rosemary is going to discover for herself or be shown that her circuit actually consumes current and drains the batteries and is 100% conventional and there is no over unity.  Whenever Rosemary senses that a legitimate test will uncover the truth she dismisses it as being unacceptable.  Whenever Rosemary is cornered and caught in a technical mistake she uses her "LOL" strategy to try to deflect the issue.

It's only a matter of time before this whole charade collapses.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

@Mags: Be careful, you don't have all your facts straight. Can you give a reference to where this "alsetalokin" fellow EVER claimed that his device was overunity in any way? And by your own admission, "al" took that video down after it had only been up less than half an hour... so all other copies are unauthorized rip-offs and may.. or may not... have been altered.
Second, I responded to your strawman black diagrams in the other thread. The brown cylinder you can see in the video, sticking up next to the transformer you object to so much is an inductor, in series with the LED load. When I remove the transformer but leave the parallel LED in place, the circuit becomes just as you have shown on the left, but with one LED. Then when I flip the LED.... well, your strawman goes up in flames.
Please watch the early Ainslie videos on my YT channel.
And the 2n7000 does have an internal body diode, it just isn't commonly shown on its diagram.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2N7000

And please provide evidence of "cleaning up old accounts" or however you put it. I think you are getting a little paranoid.

@eatenbyagrue: OK, you are on the right track. Now compare your figure with Rosemary's 25.6 Million Joules and the battery's 10 million Joules capacity. Did she exceed the battery's capacity in that one test as she claimed, or not?
Rosemary has never mentioned water loss, not all of it like I calculated or one ninth of it like you did. Nor did she mention salt water. She did mention making tea. With salt water? Well, tastes do differ.
So you calculated 879,000 Joules to raise the temp and boil off 100 grams of water, leaving 800 behind (and a crust of salt). She calculated 25.6 million Joules and didn't mention any lowering of the vessel's level, just "to boiling". To me, that means that she stopped the test when the water boiled... but anyway, we know that at the end of the first 90 minutes the water WASN'T boiling, so she had to raise the temp a further 22 degrees AND boil off 100 grams in the next ten minutes, under your assumption. OK, fine.
Now, the battery pack contained how much? 10.3 million Joules. And that figure divided by your figure is... almost 12. So the battery could have done 12 tests under your assumptions, boiling water like mad, before running down. And the discharge curve of those silver-calcium batteries is nice... have you seen it? They don't go below 12 volts until down to about 20 percent of their full charge. So take 4/5 of 12 and get about 9 or 10 or so... nine tests as you assume, boiling water like crazy at 150 Watts, before the batteries go below 12 volts.