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Capillary Force Pump

Started by vineet_kiran, February 23, 2012, 05:19:27 AM

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konduct

You are right...the tallest trees don't actually get their water from the roots and capillary system. They absorb it from the clouds that pass through their tall canopies. Just watched a tv program about these in the rain forests. They get their moisture from the air around the canopies...their may be some reverse capillary effect there though? Where the roots don't reach in the middle, the moisture from the leaves could travel "down" to? No idea if that's the actual case.

vineet_kiran

Quote from: konduct on March 05, 2012, 03:55:33 AM

No idea if that's the actual case.


@konduct


The following website has some information about it :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylem

Vineet.K.

Low-Q

I just imagined Vineet digging up a tree from the ground, and put it on a turntable. That had been quite a sight :-))

Vidar

vineet_kiran

 


@Vidar,

That is really  not  a joke.       Instead  of turning a tree on a table,  the   capillary force pump  (sketch which I have drawn)  itself  can be used  to lift  water to a considerable height  by  using  several  such capillary tube  arrangements  on  a lengthy  vertical shaft   with  collecting  trays  in between.    This  allows  water  to be lifted  in  several  stages.     Keeping  several  such arrangements  on a  single  shaft  will  make  the  system heavy  but  once  the  inertia of the  system  is overcome,   the energy  required  to keep the  system  rotating  will be very less.      Instead  of evaporation  process  as used  by tree  you will  be using  centrifugal  force to maintain  the  flow  of water.     The  idea  is very simple.   Capillary  forces neutralize  gravity  force  making  potential  energy of water  zero  even  at elevated heights   (in stages) so that it can be easily ejected out using another force.
I personally  feel   that  lifting  of  water  by tall  trees  is  a  straight forward  and  natural  case  of  over  unity.     

Vineet.K.


Low-Q

Quote from: vineet_kiran on March 05, 2012, 11:37:36 PM
 


@Vidar,

That is really  not  a joke.       Instead  of turning a tree on a table,  the   capillary force pump  (sketch which I have drawn)  itself  can be used  to lift  water to a considerable height  by  using  several  such capillary tube  arrangements  on  a lengthy  vertical shaft   with  collecting  trays  in between.    This  allows  water  to be lifted  in  several  stages.     Keeping  several  such arrangements  on a  single  shaft  will  make  the  system heavy  but  once  the  inertia of the  system  is overcome,   the energy  required  to keep the  system  rotating  will be very less.      Instead  of evaporation  process  as used  by tree  you will  be using  centrifugal  force to maintain  the  flow  of water.     The  idea  is very simple.   Capillary  forces neutralize  gravity  force  making  potential  energy of water  zero  even  at elevated heights   (in stages) so that it can be easily ejected out using another force.
I personally  feel   that  lifting  of  water  by tall  trees  is  a  straight forward  and  natural  case  of  over  unity.     

Vineet.K.
First of all. I hope you let the trees grow without digging them up :-). The energy from the sun plays an important role of what a tree is capable of when it regards lifting water more than 9.82 meters above ground. The cells that is indirectly (and probably also directly) powered by the energy from the sun, will make it happen. I "assume" that there is no overunity involved in a living tree. However, I do not fully understands the mechanisms in a living tree, so I take my assumtions with a pinch of salt.


Vidar