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This might blow your mind

Started by Magluvin, March 11, 2012, 09:36:00 PM

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Magluvin


TinselKoala

Quote from: Magluvin on March 18, 2012, 12:10:37 PM
See?

Mags
I see what I see. What do you see?
Did the voltmeter not come disconnected from the battery for a moment? Did the voltage not drop to zero but rather show a continuously decreasing voltage from about 1.4 volts on down, until he wiggled stuff and remade the connection?
What's your explanation for that event? Perhaps it was the charging circuit that came disconnected, and not the battery itself...? I don't know if that's consistent either; I'll have to think about it for a little while.

This is not a full analysis, mind; it's just a first impression. But I do have all the necessary parts _shown on the video_  on hand....

BTW you haven't said whether my replication of you-know-who's you-know what, the first one years ago, was sufficiently exact enough for your liking.

Magluvin

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 18, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
I see what I see. What do you see?
Did the voltmeter not come disconnected from the battery for a moment? Did the voltage not drop to zero but rather show a continuously decreasing voltage from about 1.4 volts on down, until he wiggled stuff and remade the connection?
What's your explanation for that event? Perhaps it was the charging circuit that came disconnected, and not the battery itself...? I don't know if that's consistent either; I'll have to think about it for a little while.

This is not a full analysis, mind; it's just a first impression. But I do have all the necessary parts _shown on the video_  on hand....

BTW you haven't said whether my replication of you-know-who's you-know what, the first one years ago, was sufficiently exact enough for your liking.

What I meant by "see?" is that the nay sayers will come fast and they did.

Z and Mopozco Were friends I believe back then.  I have followed Him also since. I think he is straight up.

I also was taken in buy a video of the Whipmag, from Alsetalokin, aka Tinselkoala
Who let on like it was real for. how long was it? How many people were lead on by that?
So I suppose you are an expert with fakes, so that is how you know for sure that Mopo vid is just trickery. Takes one to know one.    :P

Or was the Whip real?  ;)   Cant get any truth on that one, for years. But we should heed you words now, right? yeah  Heed this.


No I have not looked at the old replication you referred me to. I have seen the latest and it is not the same circuit that you represent it to be, no matter how many sprinkles you put on it.   So why would I be interested in some old stuff, when I see what is going on now?  That old circuit justifies the new butchery? 

Its like this.  You start your vid with showing Roses circuit, and then present that what you have on the table is the same.  Even if you dispute my argument that the transformer, the way you used it, with leds, 1 in parallel with the primary, and an led in parallel with the secondary, You must believe that this cluster is equal to a single 2 lead inductor, as shown in the schematic at the beginning of your vid, or you would not defend it so. It is not different?   
So your vid is NOT a truthful representation of Roses circuit as you say it is.  Even the newbes can understand that much .

If you walked into Earth Tech (you know who) and show them the schematic and then the circuit, would they laugh? Or would they say, wow, you are a frikin genius?  Cmon T. Just stop it. It is not the same as a regular inductor that I know of.   It is as different as a mosfet with a diode, and one that is without a diode. Simple simple. Yet you defend that. 

I rest my case.



If you want to argue that, we will do it over there.  Not here

Mags

Im late to pick up my stromboli. No time to edit or correct misspellings.

Magluvin

Here is what TK had in his vid. On the left is what Roses circuit shows as the inductor, and the leds in line with the inductor.

In TK table top setup, the 2 circuits on the right are hi replication of the use for the inductor and the leds.  A transformer with on led across the primary and one across the secondary.  I show 2 of his circuit, with the sec diode in the opposite direction, as I cannot tell from the vid.
Can anyone here say the either of the 2 circuits on the right are representative of Roses circuit on the left? Anyone?  ;D

Yet TK stands by it.  In your face.

Mags

TinselKoala

You forgot to put in the series inductor ( the little brown thing sticking up to the left of the "transformer" in the videos-- it's clear enough). It's not 1 Henry.... are you sure Rosie's was?
So later on in the video series when I _remove_ the transformer choke, leaving the parallel LED in place, the circuit is just like what's on the left in your above diagram, and when I flip that LED, that's equivalent to showing them both hooked up simultaneously, isn't it? Except of course for the component values, which we know are accurately reported by Rosemary.

Next straw man, please.

And I thought you didn't want to argue about this here. So why are you doing it?

(And I'm crushed that you haven't viewed the early videos of my Ainslie work. You should.. you might be surprised, and you might learn some things. By the way, the person who is registered here as "alsetalokin", using the icon of a hand-held bulb lighting up next to a Tesla coil, is not me, and if you don't believe that, you can ask Stefan, who has all IP addresses and such recorded. Maybe you can ask "alsetalokin" about the Whipmag, but don't ask me about it. You won't like what you hear... which is that there is no way that device could have been doing anything unusual at all. Come to think of it.... didn't "alsetalokin" ALWAYS tell everyone who asked that it was NOT overunity self-runner at all?)

Oh... and the 2n7000 does have an internal body diode, it just isn't commonly shown on the diagram of that part. Look it up.