Testing the TK Tar Baby

[MileHigh]

Wilby:

It's a legitimate use of an idiomatic expression coming from the energy realm.  The "burn" ultimately becomes a burn-off of heat in the MOSFET.

MileHigh

[WilbyInebriated]

Wilby:

It's a legitimate use of an idiomatic expression coming from the energy realm.  The "burn" ultimately becomes a burn-off of heat in the MOSFET.

MileHigh

no, it's not. a google search for 'energy burn' confirms this. it's just more of your hyperbole, like 'blaze of glory'...  a scientific description of a phenomena doesn't require literature of the imagination.

now repeat after me. energy doesn't 'burn', it is conserved... tra la

[TinselKoala]

Effectively, therefore, the battery primary supply represents the only component on the circuit that has an intrinsic charge imbalance. Therefore at each zero crossing, which is the point when the current entirely discharges the potential difference across the circuit material, then the voltage across the battery moves to its average voltage which, unlike the circuit components, is always greater than zero. Therefore too, the CEMF will add to or subtract from that battery average depending on the applied voltage and direction of current flow. This, in turn, thereby imposes a greater potential difference at the battery than its rated capacity.
A capacitor has no retained potential difference after a discharge of its energy. Therefore, to test whether this retained potential difference is a required condition to enable the oscillation, capacitors were applied to the circuit during operation when the oscillation was fully established. The batteries were then disconnected leaving the capacitors in series with the circuit and the oscillation then collapsed to a zero voltage. This evidence may support the conclusion that the retained potential difference at the primary supply source is required, if not entirely responsible, for driving this oscillation. Which, in turn, points to the need for any applications of this technology that are either restricted to battery supply sources or, if a grid supply is used, that the circuit is applied directly in series with that supply source thereby being able to access the potential difference at that supply.

Tra la.

[TinselKoala]

@MH: The original LEDs of Doom test was done placing the LEDs in series with the battery at the battery itself, with the Tar Baby's normal load in place.

Altoid's "LED Loads of Doom" test is a little different in that the LED, or LEDs, is/are the load. The results are very interesting. I've made a little video, and it's uploading now. Should be ready in a few minutes and I'll post the link when it's ready.



In the quote above, it appears that the NERD authors are claiming that their circuit will not run using a capacitor bank as the main power supply. Or does the phrase "the oscillation then collapsed to a zero voltage" mean..... the oscillations collapsed once the capacitor voltage had dropped below that necessary for the circuit to oscillate?  The two interpretations are very different.... and lead to different conclusions, don't they. What would happen if one used a really _large_ capacitor bank of several thousand _Farads_ charged to 48 volts? Would the circuit run for a while, thus falsifying the conclusions  in the above quote, or would the oscillations collapse immediately to a zero voltage, as required by the NERD "theory"?

[TinselKoala]

Altoid LOADs of DOOM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hl4YWlU0i4