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Overunity Machines Forum



Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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picowatt

Dear readers,

The description of her circuit's operation as described in my post (reply #3356) is readily apparent to anyone skilled in the art.

Moreover, the operation of her circuit as described in that post has been verified by both .99's simulations and TK's empirical data taken from a replication of her circuit.  Yet she continues to dispute these facts.

As well, I disagree with her continued bastardization of the term "COP".  Originally intended as a comparison of heat pump efficiencies, "COP" refers to a ratio of work input to heat change at the reservoir of interest.

"COP" is used loosely around here to typically refer to the ratio of power in to power out, and most can live with that interpretation.  In her assertion, however, that her circuit is "COP=infinity", one would expect that an infinite amount of power can be extracted for any given amount of input.  This is, on its face, ridiculous.

What she apparently really means by "COP=infinity", is that she has managed to acheive a negative mean power measurement with the method and equipment used to perform that measurement.  As .99's analysis and simulations have shown, and again TK's empirical data, the inductances involved in battery lead wiring are not being accounted for and therefore the true battery voltage is not being used when acheiving the negative mean power measurement.

Again, although this is fully described in a paper by .99 and via TK's empirical data, she continues to claim a "COP=infinity".

At the very least, this should be corrected to state that she has acheived a "negative mean power measurement" using the methods and equipment as indicated. 

PW


picowatt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on June 29, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
Not actually picowatt.  I'd be embarrassed to show anyone at all your ridiculous proposal that Q2 turns ON with an applied negative signal from the function generator.  It's ABSURD. 

Rosie Pose

It is only "absurd" to the "likes" of you.

You may remain fearfully and blissfully ignorant of the facts as you wish, but you will find few to accompany you in that bliss...

MileHigh

All:

The Bizarro Universe is unfolding as it should.

You are a fluke of the universe.  You have no right to be here.

Deteriorata.  Deteriorata.

Go placidly amid the noise and waste,
And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Avoid quiet and passive persons, unless you are in need of sleep.
Rotate your tires.
Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself,
And heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys.
Know what to kiss, and when.
Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do.
Wherever possible, put people on hold.
Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time,
There is always a big future in computer maintenance.

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

Remember The Pueblo.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate.
Know yourself.
If you need help, call the FBI.
Exercise caution in your daily affairs,
Especially with those persons closest to you -
That lemon on your left, for instance.
Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls
Would scarcely get your feet wet.
Fall not in love therefore.  It will stick to your face.
Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.
And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
Hire people with hooks.
For a good time, call 606-4311.  Ask for Ken.
Take heart in the bedeepening gloom
That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.
And reflect that whatever fortune may be your lot,
It could only be worse in Milwaukee.

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

Therefore, make peace with your god,
Whatever you perceive him to be - hairy thunderer, or cosmic muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal,
The world continues to deteriorate.
Give up!

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

TinselKoala

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on June 29, 2012, 05:35:02 AM
www.microsemi.com/en/sites/default/files/micnotes/APT9402.pdf

A bit out of character for you actually to post something useful and helpful, isn't it? But thank you, this is a very interesting document. Of course it contains all kinds of heresies, like the statement that a Joule is a Watt-second (not a Watt per second as Ainslie has it) and also this marvellous and concise statement about how to do power calculations, which contradicts Ainslie in several ways:

QuoteIt is possible, with today’s microprocessor
technology, to monitor, multiply and sum theinstantaneous current and voltage at regular intervalsto obtain the total energy into the device at any point
in time. Dividing the total energy by the total timeelapsed, to obtain the average power, and
multiplying by the transient thermal impedance
would give the junction temperature after any
interval of time.

And of course the same statement about the junction temperature also applies to the external load on the mosfet.

Pearls before swine, Wilby, horses to water.

picowatt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on June 29, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
Not actually picowatt.  I'd be embarrassed to show anyone at all your ridiculous proposal that Q2 turns ON with an applied negative signal from the function generator.  It's ABSURD. 

Rosie Pose

And again, in this short post, you demonstrate your lack of understanding regarding the operation of a function generator and how you circuit operates.

It is truly pathetic, and indeed, you should be "embarrassed".