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Overunity Machines Forum



Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: mrsean2k on August 26, 2012, 03:25:51 PM
I sort if expected RA to act that way fairly quickly - when I went to the author of the Wikipedia entry she was relying on and asked him to confirm first hand that her interpretation was incorrect, she characterized it as an attack - but I was surprised at @gmeast who Ive assumed was working in good faith.

It doesn't help that she was deleting my posts and then misrepresenting what I'd said.

I genuinely believe there's absolutely no face lost in conceding an error such as this. But his reaction is questionable.
That bit about deletion/misrepresentation is a big part of what has gotten her banned from several forums in the past. It's part and parcel of the Ains-lie Syndrome, a particularly pernicious and virulent form of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

As far as conceding error or acknowledging what data really mean..... their conclusions precede their data, so any data that doesn't fit is either discarded, discounted, or ignored completely. They are working with the explicitly expressed intent of proving their conjectures! Not testing them! They are PROVING them. 

It's interesting that in some languages like German the terms "to test" and "to prove" have a closer meaning than they do in scientific explorations. But even in common English we distinguish between "to prove" and "to probe", cognates with the same root.

Just as in Ainslie's own data shown in the scopeshots, where the battery voltage can be seen to be declining by several tenths of volts over the course of a day's trials on several occasions..... if the data do not correspond to the predictions they are ignored. She claimed that there was no measurable decrease in the battery's charge and presented data at the same time that showed measured decrease, consistent, systematic and clear, in the battery's charge. The only way this can happen is that data is simply ignored when it does not fit the preconclusion.

TinselKoala

Quote from: polln8r on August 26, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
It would be nice, but as soon as he did, I imagine their TOS would be changed to include "posting the images elsewhere" as a criminal actionable offense.

Nahh.... ever since he sent her his picture, she's got the severe hots for .99. Her knees quiver. I think she probably keeps it as a desktop background. He can do no wrong, and I'm sure she believes that he will eventually come to understand that the only possible explanation for her waveforms is the zipon, arriving twice as before as it went. The LeCroy does not lie!

(He is a lot better looking than I am, I'll happily concede that.)

polln8r

You mean this desktop background image I found (by way of rifling) just now?

TinselKoala

I too initally believed gmeast to be acting in good faith and to be a person of integrity, since he quickly identified the problem with the 555 timer published, and never corrected, by Ainslie so long ago in the Quantum magazine article.

But after this latest, I see that I was mistaken.  He resorts to the same kind of lying misrepresentation and claims without reference, the same kinds of self-contradiction, the same kinds of personal insults and innuendo as his mentor.

QuoteUp until now I didn't know what a 'TK' was. I thought it might be a tea pot manufacturer. So I searched for it and found TK's thread.  He/She/It suggested that I might be using clip leads for my circuit connects and also that I am in error using PWM percentages to define my power percentages.  I also believe there was also some crowing of some sort.  I also noticed after logging on to OU.com, I could not reply directly to this tread ... yes "tread".  Fine ... a bunch of school girls just listening to themselves.

Nobody except Ainslie is blocked from replying directly to this "tread", unless Stefan has blocked them for some reason of his own.

Now... just where have I suggested that gmeast is in error for using "PWM percentages to define his power percentages?" I'd like to see a link to the precise place I said that and just how I may have said it..... since I've carried out tutorials on just how to use digital oscilloscopes and their math functions including live realtime integration of instantaneous power curves to give total energy integrals.........

And surely gmeast knows that only people who are registered on that forum are allowed to see the images... unlike here, where all is revealed to everyone who is curious.

And I'm also wondering just where anyone insulted gmeast personally yet. But we can certainly start, if that's how he wants to play.
Even though he has now revealed himself as a bigoted, sexist, bloviating idiot liar who contradicts himself then whines about it later trying to change the meaning. 'NOT MORE THAN 0.8 VOLTS'.... well, if it was not more than, say 0.7 volts, or not more than 0.78 volts.... why not say that then?  Gmeast reported a voltage drop of 0.8 volts on his 24 volt battery supply, plain and simple, and now he's trying to weasel out of that report.
The facts remain:
Gmeast found that the 555 timer circuit in the Quantum article did not perform as claimed.
Gmeast is not using the circuit published by Ainslie.
Gmeast is not using an equivalent load to that used by Ainslie.
Gmeast is not operating at the same frequency as Ainslie.
And so on. In short, he has actually refuted Ainslie's claims in the Quantum article by NOT BEING ABLE to reproduce her effects using the published circuit, or even another circuit operating at the claimed duty cycle and frequency of the Quantum article. He has reported these facts and then he has proceeded to allow distortions of the interpretation of these facts to proceed unchecked. The Quantum circuit has no diode, no mosfet gate driver, and has a timer that produces a 96 percent ON duty cycle at the load. This is not the circuit gmeast is testing or reporting on.



poynt99

I asked gmeast about his post TK, but Rose deleted it. I looked back at your posts here and could not find any reference to what he claimed you said.

Apparently, I'm not permitted to converse with gmeast unless it is to compliment him on his success, even though we are now being told it is not a "success" per se, but more a "work in progress".

Regarding his uploads, don't worry there's nothing to see really. The scope shots convey little, and there is no schematic as far as I recall.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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