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Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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TinselKoala

Here's just a bit of what you can do with properly switched mosfets.

The circuit that produces this nice electric fire, from just two of Tar Baby's batteries, 24 volts input, is almost identical to the CORRECT form of the NERD circuit, configured as a proper feedback oscillator and driving a matched, resonant load. Yes, when scoped it can produce plenty of "negative" power measurements, and it certainly will charge up external batteries until they explode, if you like. What you see is a plasma made of ionised air gases with some coloration from metal ions boiled off of the electrode surfaces. The flame is made by a pulsating DC output; it is not AC. Note the nearly continuous purple line of anode spots on the right electrode, and the much hotter, more widely spaced cathode spots on the left electrode. Every NE-2 bulb that you see glowing brightly only has a single wire connected; the other is just poking up into space. The arc spans 4 inches in a straight line but over six inches if you include the upward looping.

This version uses two IRFP260 mosfets and no gate driver chips. The transistors run cool, because even though the circuit is locked in a self-resonant feedback oscillation, the switching losses are kept low by causing the transistors to switch at the zero-crossings of the oscillation, not at some random voltage. In addition, instead of the two Ohms Rdss of the IRFPG50, these transistors have a much lower on-state resistance of 0.04 Ohm and thus waste much less of the power sent through them.



Magluvin

Quote from: gmeast on October 29, 2012, 09:15:47 AM
"That's news, that Ainslie isn't [color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]sharing[/color] with you. It sounded like she intended to."


Your assumptions speak only to your arrogance and stupidity.  Rosie has told me a number of times privately that she does NOT care if I choose NOT to associate her name with my investigation.  In fact she said it's probably better if I DON'T because of self righteous people like you.

I am NOT out to prove that HER circuit works, because I haven't built HER circuit.  I am out to investigate the possibilities that an Inductive Heater and related Circuit(s) can possibly display COP>1 behavior.  That's all I'm doing you arrogant, presumptive, venomous TWIT!


If you're accusing me of "fakery", then others will eventually see you and your accomplices for who you are.  I feel so sorry for you that you harbor so much hatred for one person that you attack ANYONE that so much as utters that person's name.  You have such a small, pitiable, narrow mind.


I hope I see you at the symposium.

Regards

"Rosie has told me a number of times privately that she does NOT care if I choose NOT to associate her name with my investigation.  In fact she said it's probably better if I DON'T because of self righteous people like you."

Of coarse she doesnt want your experiments associated with her. Hers doesnt work, and you producing experiments in the same neighborhood doesnt do her agenda any good, especially if yours dont work.

Bah corndogs. lol, she is pushing you away already.  ;)

"I am NOT out to prove that HER circuit works, because I haven't built HER circuit.  I am out to investigate the possibilities that an Inductive Heater and related Circuit(s) can possibly display COP>1 behavior.  That's all I'm doing you arrogant, presumptive, venomous TWIT!"

Hmm. Well if you are investigating "Inductive Heater and related Circuit(s) can possibly display COP>1 behavior." , then why not try her circuit? It claims cop 17.  ;)   

Or, you have an idea that her claim is not what she says it is and are trying some different things in the same area.

"If you're accusing me of "fakery", then others will eventually see you and your accomplices for who you are.  I feel so sorry for you that you harbor so much hatred for one person that you attack ANYONE that so much as utters that person's name.  You have such a small, pitiable, narrow mind.

"

Sorry if you think that. I was just showing that others that made claims have faked it. Some were just have no clue claims, maybe thinking that just because they have higher voltage out than in that they are getting OU.  Never said you were a faker. But Rose is. Whether its that she didnt know it(have no clue category), but she surely does now. Thats why all the flip floppin, lies, delays, or "no, thats not the circuit" even though we got it from her blogs and other sites where she put them.

Soo, never said you were faking anything.  ;) ;D   Mylow is just a 'pure' example.

Mags

mrsean2k

@tk


Leaving aside @gmeast's, er, excitable nature for a minute, you mentioned a few replies back that his calorimetry wasn't bad for a first pass.


Are there any low-hanging-fruit changes you would make to improve the process he describes?

MileHigh

I can certainly see one pattern repeating itself.

Rosemary heaps irrational amounts of praise on the newcomer:

QuoteYour work is exceptional.  Very comforting to see this in your capable hands.
Don't EVER underestimate your achievement here.
VERY well done for all you work
But I don't think that there are any of us who would doubt your competence at measurement.
Anyway Greg - onwards and upwards.  You're doing a sterling job.
I'm absolutely happy with how you're going about this.  Always have been.
And seeing your competence I also know that I always will be.

Then of course there is the reality.  Gmeast is clearly a beginner that only has a basic grasp of electronics.  He sometimes struggles and sometimes he recovers and sometimes he is dead wrong.  He falls into that classic group that get a multimeter and a scope and then suddenly believe that they are capable of analyzing almost any circuit.

Then we see Gmeast convinced that certain frequencies or some setup is "really special" and he is onto something when in fact he is just your average newbie most likely seeing things that he has never seen before.

And of course we can't forget that Rosemary isn't even remotely qualified enough to make a call about Gmeast's abilities.  She is the chef in name only that doesn't even know how to make toast.

So, knowing the pattern, there is that chance that Rosemary will turn on Gmeast and dismiss him as an idiot if he ends up producing results that are not to Rosie's liking.

And the sad sad reality is that all of the pulses and "delicious" oscillations and whatever else the boffins come up with (or regurgitate) is simply the circuit doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing.  No over unity, nada.  Just some pulses reflecting back and forth and inductors reacting to load changes and so on and so on.  Something that any engineer would look at and not give it a second thought.

And Rosie has convinced herself that Poynt and company are unable to explain the "magic oscillations" even though he has tried to explain it to Rosie over and over and his simulations faithfully oscillated.  Rosemary is also talking to herself when she discusses stuff with "AlienSigns."

It's all so strange, a real doozie for sure.  Poor Rosemary and her alter ego AlienSigns are stuck in one of the remotest back alleyways on the Internet like the proverbial Who's of Whoville.

gmeast

Again, thanks for the attention.  Nice light show TK. 


I had typed out a nice, long response for all of you, but it's not worth it. Well I need to get back to my fakery.