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[e2matrix]

Hi Bruce ,    LOL  - Yes as a Matrix movie fan I got a laugh out of that article and with their pics from the movie of the 'Pods' it was interesting to see people still reference the Matrix movie.   I still see Blu-Ray ads and  DVD ads with clips from the Matrix movie in current titles so I assume it's a classic in a number of respects.   I wonder how similar their tech is to Quenco.   It doesn't appear they are getting nearly as much power as Quenco will have but I think they are on the right track. 

[sarkeizen]

Sounds familiar, eh?

It should, it's a thermocouple.  What does that have to do with thermionc generation which breaks 2LOT?

[e2matrix]

No Bruce, you are wrong.  You may as well be a million miles off.

The Fuji system uses temperature differences, which is a known and understood process.  Philip's system allegedly does not need a temperature difference.  This is the key fundamental issue at point for this entire thread and for Philip's proposition.

What are you thinking?  We will see what you have to say on April 1st.

I'm fairly certain his "sound familiar" statement was a reference to the Matrix movie clips shown on that Fuji site and the fact my name here has Matrix in it or more specifically the concept of using people to generate electricity which is both the main theme in the movie 'Matrix' (taken to an extreme as people were kept in pods and used by machines to generate power for the machines and largely computer controlled world) as well as Fuji's idea for their Fuji film discussed on that page.   

[profitis]

basicly a maxwellian demon isnt required at all to circumvent the second law thermo.just the sophistication of design of the device.the intelligence of design comes from the brain building the thing so the builder is in fact the maxwell demon.we humans are maxwell demons.

[Bruce_TPU]

I'm fairly certain his "sound familiar" statement was a reference to the Matrix movie clips shown on that Fuji site and the fact my name here has Matrix in it or more specifically the concept of using people to generate electricity which is both the main theme in the movie 'Matrix' (taken to an extreme as people were kept in pods and used by machines to generate power for the machines and largely computer controlled world) as well as Fuji's idea for their Fuji film discussed on that page.

LOL  I knew you would get it.  Yes to all you have written.  There is a "race" that is on to figure out a way to "perpetually" (I know some don't like that word, and is why I used it) keep a cell phone charged.  I do indeed believe this would be a HUGE market for Phillips device, as a "starting" place.  If I had the money, I would buy a license myself, after seeing it work.  (Yes I put in that disclaimer.  Like Ronald Reagan told the Soviets, "Trust but verify". LOL)