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[tim123]

Hi Profits,
  Ok, the post is this one: http://www.overunity.com/12207/quentron-com/msg382512/#msg382512

It looks quite simple in principle. But expensive indeed.
Palladium foil - Thickness: 0.0015mm 25x25mm £ 420 - (http://www.shopmetals.co.uk/pd_fl_005.html)

1) Is there a way of doing it with cheaper materials?
2) What exactly is the principle of operation - where does the power come from? Is it a similar QM effect to Quentron?
3) Has it ever been experimentally proven - if so by whom? Reference?

Thanks
Regards, Tim

[sarkeizen]

Profitis and Sarkeizen,
  with all due respect, you guys have been bickering like an old married couple for months now. It's pretty tedious...

Seriously?  Compared to what?  Waiting years for Philip's nothing-machine?

Tell you what, as soon as Philip produces something non-stupid then I'll gladly let him have his soapbox back. Deal?

[profitis]

@tim 1)yes nickel may substitute palladium.the nickel must be tightly coated with nickel-black or at least grey spongy layer electrolyticaly before use(this is an art).2)yes its identical to quenco,s fundamental principal,except its electrochemical,not thermionic.quenco is an electron concentration cell and this is an electrochemical concentration cell.it obeys all the rules of concentration cells except kelvins rule.palladium/nickel concentrating thousands times more hydrogen on their surface than silver.3)ive done plenty experiments but i must warn you that its no easy feat getting hydrogen to saturate nickel/palladium,AND seal the device off free of air.if theres air trapped inside after sealing then implosion can result due to vaccuum forming.silver or gold wire must be used as your contact wires in the cell as they dont dissolve hydrogen and leak it. nickel gives somewhat less power than palladium.a few milliamps/cm2,still good enough for some practical purposes,especially in series.

[orbut 3000]

sotheonlythingthatpreventsusfromusingfreeenergyisprofitisawkwardpunctuationschemeandhisrefusaltoprovidethecitationshepromisedbutotherwiseitsadonedeal.

[sarkeizen]

The first sentence on page 304 is "In the alkaline version, as shown in Fig. 11.12b NH4CL is replaced by KOH."

So I wonder, what excuse profits will come up with now....