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MarkE

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February 13, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Quote from: profitis on February 13, 2014, 01:28:12 PM
ok @mark E lets rather deal with something that is claimed to exist by established sources e.g. wikipedia.perhaps if i ask you a few questions then there,l be less confusion for everyone.can you tell me how an oxygen electrode concentration cell will reach equilibrium spontaneously? Im talking about 2 platinum oxygen electrodes in same electrolyte with different exposure to gas in a closed system here.
It is basic chemistry that two reservoirs with different ion concentrations that are allowed to communicate will change concentrations until they reach equilibrium.  Is there even a question about that?

profitis

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February 13, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
im talking about an oxygen gas electrode concentration cell @mark E not an ionic one.can you tell me what must spontaneously shift from one electrode to the other to go to equilibrium...

MarkE

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February 13, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: profitis on February 13, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
im talking about an oxygen gas electrode concentration cell @mark E not an ionic one.can you tell me what must spontaneously shift from one electrode to the other to go to equilibrium...
As far as I know, the mere existence of the concentration disparity of two species and the ability of the two concentrations to physically communicate is sufficient to cause the system to drive towards equilibrium.  I would ask the complementary question:  If the species can communicate what is there to keep them from driving towards equilibrium?

profitis

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February 13, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
precisely @mark E.what is keeping the system so dead-stable in communication and yet giving a classical nernst potential in direct proportion to relative gas exposures of electrodes???

MarkE

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February 13, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: profitis on February 13, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
precisely @mark E.what is keeping the system so dead-stable in communication and yet giving a classical nernst potential in direct proportion to relative gas exposures of electrodes???
Communication is a physical condition of materials being in contact directly or through an intermediary fluid.  It is a stipulation.  Since such configurations are what the Nernst equation describes potentials for, what is unusual here that might make the Nernst equation inapplicable?
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