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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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Madebymonkeys

Quote from: sarkeizen on January 09, 2013, 06:36:14 PM
Not sure either but perhaps it's just a way of saying "well I roasted a vacuum tube and that settles it for me".  Me, even if I did stick a tube into an oven and saw a voltage and a current.  It's difficult to know that you're ruling out every possible non-2LOT violating explanation.I'd be more in favor of a series of diagrams explaining exactly what he thinks is happening at the electron level and specifically showing it break 2LOT.

Of course, but that's even more unlikely than a quick snapshot of someone in a lab at Stanford with a Quenco hat on!

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  I'm not sure how much I doubt that Philip has attempted to make something.  Like a few projects I've seen, this seems like pathological science more than outright fraud.  That said, I doubt Philip is telling people the whole truth.

That's kind of what I am getting at - I doubt that Stanford has even heard of Quenco let alone built one. Oh, and the website has reverted back to ridiculousness again.

PJH: Come on Phil, post us at least a picture of a prototype unit under test?! I promise not to post anything for a while if you do :)
It only takes a minute to post - take a break from changing the website every 5 minutes and post us some Stanford holiday pics!

sarkeizen

Quote from: Madebymonkeys on January 09, 2013, 07:42:31 PM
That's kind of what I am getting at - I doubt that Stanford has even heard of Quenco let alone built one.
As I've said before.  I seriously doubt Stanford is involved in the sense that it's helping him with research.  What, if anything seems likely is he is renting facilities.  Anyone with money can do that.  Does Philip seem sufficiently convinced he's right to spend....whatever....on flying to the USA and attempting to make the unmakable.  It seems plausible assuming he had the money.  If he can let go of a $200K property then he probably has some money to spare.

There are only two things that makes me think Philip isn't confident:

i) He spends time attempting to refute his skeptics (although to some extent he tries to make it look like he is unconcerned).  If everyone thought that Sinterklaas wouldn't bring me a pony and I was 100% certain he would and it was December 24th.  I would probably spend my time making sure I had enough oats rather than worry about the neigh-sayers. 
ii)  His confidence - everything with him is "no doubt" this and "for sure" that.  It's possible he's drunk his own Kool-Aid but this is also the behavior of someone compensating for doubt.

@lumen - I again deeply and unequivocally apologize for breaking your rule about "talking about people" that you break all the time.

doublehelix

If you see his website www.quentron.com he is offering $200,666 to any University that can prove his device does not work, such an offer seems to contradict the opinion that he has doubts. If I were still at Uni I would take up such an offer if it were made, and if I had the authority to do so. It makes sense to either claim the money or see a Law of physics revised, either way where is the harm in a University contacting him? He says no one has, that seems hard to believe.

sarkeizen

Quote from: doublehelix on January 12, 2013, 04:47:23 AM
If you see his website www.quentron.com he is offering $200,666 to any University that can prove his device does not work
Well I just looked and saw that it now says "does not clearly violate 2LOT" and the definition as to what that means is left up to some person who is unnamed but their only credential is that they are a professor of physics.

Some thoughts as to why this would be a waste of anybody's time:

i) A single professor of physics is - believe it or not - not inerrant.  In fact it would be easy to find professors of Physics who have advocated some of the most moronic things.  The point of science is that the consensus of smart people over time will create data that will stand the test of time.   Not, as Philip seems to believe.  One person, One experiment, Absolute truth. 

ii) As stated it's unclear if this device can be proven to potentially violate 2LOT.  In which case ALL experiments would not be a "clear violation" in which case Philip should write me a check.

iii) Since it seems pretty obvious that the point of this is to generate some press.  I would think you would have to clear this with someone pretty high up.  My thinking is that might take a while. 

iv) You have 9 days to create the device, test it, confirm the results and have a press conference .It seems like Philip chose a incredibly short timeframe on purpose.

Quotesuch an offer seems to contradict the opinion that he has doubts.
It might only say that he has no doubts that someone can disconfirm the test.
QuoteIt makes sense to either claim the money or see a Law of physics revised, either way where is the harm in a University contacting him?
Well because he's probably wrong and giving someone else permission to publish work, essentially using your influence as a university as advertising for Philip, who is likely wrong (even by his own standard of evidence) is probably a good way to get fired.
QuoteHe says no one has, that seems hard to believe.
Really?  All Philip did was put up a webpage.  Do you think if you put up a webpage (that looks like a kid did it) saying you would award $300,000 to any University who performs an experiment that you would be flooded with offers inside of ten or so days?  By what mechanism would that happen? Do universities hire people to constantly google "university challenge  $200,666" - Yes you need to google those exact terms to get Quenco as the top hit.  Philp should hire someone who knows how to do proper cyber-marketing.

The plain fact is that Philip, despite his bluster, boasting and legal threats is a nobody.   Who is listening other than OU and moletrap?

doublehelix

Quote from: sarkeizen on January 12, 2013, 10:46:49 PM
iv) You have 9 days to create the device, test it, confirm the results and have a press conference .It seems like Philip chose a incredibly short timeframe on purpose.

Where, or how do you arrive at 9 days?