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quentron.com

Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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e2matrix

conradelektro,   I really don't know if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed or just don't have a clue what quentron and Philip are all about.  If you have read this thread you would have to see your statements are completely foolish.  There is absolutely nothing that Philip has written that warrants an attack like you have made. 

neptune

Let us consider a "coke Can" sized device with a 1 cm square Quentron tile, an aluminium heat sink and a small fan. The fan would probably be a small computer fan of about two inches diameter. Does anyone know what the output of such a fan might be in terms of cubic feet or cubic metres per minute? Let us take a wild guess, and say 10 cubic feet per minute . Let us assume that the air temperature is 15 degrees Celsius. Let the output power drawn from the device be 1 Kilowatt. Perhaps someone can calculate from the above figures, what the temperature of the out going air would be.
       How would the situation change if the ambient air temperature was 5 degrees, or zero degrees? Would the heatsink ice up, or the air exit grill?
         Could we use this device as a combined refrigerator and power generator? I have been mentally comparing this device to a peltier module. A Peltier device will only act as a generator if it has a temperature difference across it. So as far as heat is concerned, it has a source and a sink. The Quentron device appears to be unique in that it uses the environment as a source, and does not have or need a sink.
      Lots of questions. Does anyone care to comment?
ADDED LATER.The actual air output from a fan of this size will probably be  between 2 and 10 Cubic feet/minute

lumen

It would be interesting to know some approximated delta temperatures and power output of a coke can sized device if someone would like to calculate the math.

Fan Specification:
Speed reference: 1800 +/- 10% RPM
Bearing Type: Sleeve Bearing
Noise Reference: 23 db
Reference air flow: 60CFM
Rated Voltage: 12V
Interface Type: 3 Pins
Length: 9.8inches
Size: 2 x 2 x 0.6in(L x W x H)
Color: black


neptune

@Hartiberlin. Have you been in contact with Phillip yet about obtaining a sample of Quentron? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. We are all depending on you. Please do not let us down .

cubalibre

Hello

Very interesting thing, such a quentron power foil. I would be very happy if this foil does what is promised.

The coke can ventilator calculation:

Massflow [kg/s]             60CFM = 1.36 m3/min       Density 1.2 kg/m3    -->  0.0272 kg/s
Specific Heat [J/kg K]     1000 J/kg K
Delta Temp [K]               From 15°C down to 5°C   --> 10 K 

Power  Qp [W] = Massflow [kg/s] x Specific Heat [J/kg K] x Delta Temp [K] = 272 W

That is a very high electical power output. Obviously much more than the power input of a ventilator. As well a nice air condition in summertime.

If I could use this foil, I will be happy to donate the inventor. I wish you all the best.

Best regards, cubalibre