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Bruce_TPU

#575
December 17, 2012, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: sarkeizen on December 17, 2012, 08:15:07 PM
I'm interested if people can tell me if they think the probability of him delivering on his claims concerning P(Feb2013) changes in one direction or another based on the outcome. You were actually the one who wanted to discuss - that is focused in on - an example I gave *using* a classically quantified probability as an illustration.  From there you started looking at everything but this central point.  I was just being polite by responding.  In fact in several places I mention clear enough that one would think a mrsean2k would understand that some particular degree of precision was not necessary but claiming that no degree of precision is probably equivalent to saying you don't know what you're talking about.

But I guess you like to blame others.Risk is often looked at as a product of probability and impact.  It seems a little ingenuous to claim that you have nothing invested. I mean you do spend time here.  You seem to have read Philips posts enough to come up with a probability > 0 that he's going to deliver something useful in February - you can play denial games with this if you like.  So your risk, if you're being honest is probably at least a little above zero.

Also you claimed that quantification was pointless.  Now that argument has been killed all you have left is a "I don't wanna".  Nobody said you had to.If you're talking about being more precise to me then please confine yourself to making statements you can know.  You said a statement was not precise enough, presumably you know where the imprecision lies.  If not, I'd guess this was yet another dishonest dodge.What about the fort you're building in your backyard?  I won't be invited there either I guess.  What about the super-secret club handshake?  *sigh*  Woe is me.

Seriously?!  Are you fifteen?

Nobody said you had to answer.  I was actually at a mrsean2k level of clarity on this point.  I have no expectation of you answering. I do find it interesting that an incredibly simple process, a kind that not only most people do every single day in one way or another but everyone here who has some kind of expectation for Philip on February 2013 has done in some respect.   Can't be done by anyone here when we change one assumption likewise the incredible amount of twisting and turning people e.g. YOU go through to avoid answering is interesting too.

Yes feel free to blame me.  I mean you've been pushing hard for an excuse not to answer ever since I got you trapped on the subject.   This should make you all feel off the hook now.  Bruce can chime in with one of his backpatting posts ("Good one Mrsean2k.  I've felt that in addition to more moderation what this board needs is a rule that says no question needs to be honoured unless the asker pays proper respect to Phil...and me...and we get to define 'proper'") .  If all y'all needed was an excuse there are easier ways.

Also you're kind of lying again.  I've been completely straightforward and honest.  You on the other hand had tried to pull a few fast ones in this discussion.That's you're silly and condescending?
A NEW record~ !  27 Posts to say absolutely NOTHING of consequence!
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

ramset

#576
December 17, 2012, 08:59:55 PM
HHMMMmmm
Definately Looped it,probably 10 ways to hades......
I had no idea you could beat a horse for that long.
  some guys have to talk to the wife, watch jeopardy reruns or hide on the putor.

Personally I think he should go knit or build something.


Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

sarkeizen

#577
December 17, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on December 17, 2012, 08:28:48 PM
A NEW record~ !  27 Posts to say absolutely NOTHING of consequence!
I find it a bit ironic that someone who's last few posts are primarily back-patting and pleas for moderation would balk at the idea that knowing something about the probabilities people assign to Philip's potential failure in February 2013 is useful.  As I said before what I'm talking about isn't exactly without precedent among mathematicians.

@ramset - I just don't watch that much TV.  On average someone in the US watches about 2.5 hours a day.   That's more than enough time to spank poor arguments from people who should know better (and criticize the occasional cheerleader like Bruce).   I think I put in a full day of work today - despite having a cold, commuted home, read to my kids and tucked them in.   Worked a bit on the NYT saturday crossword too.

Quote from: Bruce_TPU
NOW THAT WAS...
Ever get the feeling you're trying way too hard?

Quote from: tagor
yes I am getting sick and tired of the badgering !
You and me both sister.

Bruce_TPU

#578
December 17, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: ramset on December 17, 2012, 08:59:55 PM
HHMMMmmm
Definately Looped it,probably 10 ways to hades......
I had no idea you could beat a horse for that long.
  some guys have to talk to the wife, watch jeopardy reruns or hide on the putor.

Personally I think he should go knit or build something.

Now THAT was funny! 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

tagor

#579
December 18, 2012, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on December 17, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Is there a moderator for this board, or almost ANY board?  We should change the name of our forum perhaps to "Overpester.com".

If you too are getting sick and tired of the badgering, and pestering of and by the trolls, both former and recent ones, please comment until we can get some moderation back on this forum, please, for the love of God.

yes I am getting sick and tired of the badgering !
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