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[profitis]

@sarkeizen..my pants diagram is a common diffusion-compensation cell matey-mate,ie.a concentration cell that gets its voltage from an over/underpotential difference like any concentration cell: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Butler_volmer_equation_graph_nl.png .the differences in equilibrium gaseous diffusion rates creating a nasty voltage dip(or hike) against the standard respective gas electrode potentials.thus we have a system that has an totaly stable EQUILIBRIUM POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE much like a diode contact potential difference,except that we can put this potential difference to work.so we have 2 totaly stable entropy states in one system,one toward flattening a potential difference and one toward creating a potential difference,in breach of kelvin laws.this is why mark E is against an stable equilibrium potential difference here.

[sarkeizen]

@sarkeizen..my pants diagram is

a) Not something which can be found in an ordinary textbook and
b) apparently is the absolute and only way to make your point. 

As long as both of those premises are true you have lost the argument.

Chin up.  Maybe you'll get smarter.   Sometimes that happens after high-school.

[profitis]

@sarkeizen the only way to bring my point to the table? profitis statement: 'all equi-pressure gaseous electrode overpotential differential cells violate kelvin rule'.nobody can disprove this statement in practice or theory.

[MarkE]

Statements are a dime a dozen.  If you were to actually prove that such cells violate the Second Law of Energy, then you would become famous.

[sarkeizen]

@sarkeizen the only way to bring my point to the table?

The point of yours that's being discussed.  That textbooks necessitate the existence of and the ability to create a battery which will run an ipod like device eternally and continually.

So far, you can't make your point using an ordinary textbook.