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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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profitis

Everyone who was debating it knew it mr sarkeizen.if they didn't know then ofcourse it wouldn't apply because then a piece of enriched uranium shoved in a closed box couldve done same and there wouldve been no debate to begin with.

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on May 22, 2014, 08:44:44 PM
then a piece of enriched uranium shoved in a closed box couldve done same and there wouldve been no debate to begin with.
But people can debate something that hasn't been built.  Right?  Clearly if people had Karpen's design, or notes or had talked to him about the subject or just out-of-the-blue and entirely independently thought such a thing might work.  They could still debate it.  Virtually any aspect of science where true equipoise exists there is debate as to the outcome.   Many of these debates last a very long time.  Just off the top of my head I can think of over 100 such debates in my field alone.

So a debate on the subject is possible even if something hasn't been built.  Right?  However according to you the existence of such debate does not increase the probability of the hypothesis being true.  Right?

profitis

Why debate a piece of gold and plat shoved in electrolyte under air and then come to absolute zero consensus conclusion,after 70years @sarkeizen? Why is the subject of the 70year and ongoing debate:'what is fueling the thing' unresolved when galvanic science was and  now is even more fullblown understood? What is fueling the thing @sarkeizen?

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on May 22, 2014, 09:53:04 PM
Why debate a piece of gold and plat shoved in electrolyte under air and then come to absolute zero consensus conclusion
So you agree you can debate something for a very long time that has never been built.  Right? Good.  Moving on then...

Now what if someone had, as you say built a device that had "a piece of gold and a piece of platinum shoved into electrolyte in the presence of air and sealed off" and the people debating it knew someone built it but, what if that was ALL they knew.  That is, all that they knew is that someone somewhere claimed to have built such a thing.

Does your rule still apply?  Does the longstanding debate still make your hypothesis highly likely?

profitis

Come to the new thread mr sarkeizen.